roboto Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 34 minutes ago, CornwallRam said: Just don't marry your camel - all that will stop if you do. Yeah, they’ll soon get the hump. They all do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAM1966 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 1 hour ago, PistoldPete said: I agree that morally he should not be pursuing Derby for anything. And he isn't even though he is entitled to. Whereas Gibson is pursuing money that he is not entitled to. I am not defending either of them but in terms of morality I think Gibson is lower down the food chain that's all. How can Morris the man who went to the football casino of life hoping to win the jackpot (Promotion to the PL), gamble everything, max out his credit card walk away with no debts, but expect to take a final payday? Its morally corrupt and the EFL should close this loop..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 46 minutes ago, roboto said: Yeah, they’ll soon get the hump. They all do. This is why I love this forum - clicked on to see the latest news and the first post I see is about camels. Love it Comrade 86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philmycock Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 I hear our supporters groups have approached Boro's and Wycombe's asking for their help, any news on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramswriter podcast Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 I spoke to Andy Appleby yesterday - confirmed him and Gadsby is false https://theramswriter.wordpress.com/2021/12/22/former-owners-will-not-join-forces/ Crewton, LeedsCityRam, Derby4Me and 9 others 2 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 8 minutes ago, Philmycock said: I hear our supporters groups have approached Boro's and Wycombe's asking for their help, any news on this? Representatives from BAWT have been in touch with the WWFC board regarding the ongoing legal case and have received a supportive and encouraging reply. Over the coming days, we hope to engage in a positive dialogue and explain the fears of #dcfc fans if the case is pursued. IslandExile and Philmycock 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abu Derby Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 Neither Boro or Wycombe can categorically prove sod all therefore won’t receive a penny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curb Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, Abu Derby said: Neither Boro or Wycombe can categorically prove sod all therefore won’t receive a penny. Just like the EFL, they don’t have to prove anything, they know we aren’t in a position to challenge them in a long drawn out court case. RoyMac5, jimtastic56 and r_wilcockson 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 17 minutes ago, Abu Derby said: Neither Boro or Wycombe can categorically prove sod all therefore won’t receive a penny. They will though, wrong as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derby8 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 The potential buyers are likely to let this run long and let the administrators tease out all the financial risks. Powder and money dry until then. Would likely want t/o March/April/May to plan for next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 13 hours ago, Woodley Ram said: I think its about the season as a whole and that our overspending meant we were given an unfair advantage. The flaw is that could be argued for Reading and a load of others. If what they mean is that we should have received a points deduction last year then that is the remit of the EFL and their appeal format. it would be difficult to prove Gibson's or theirs but that's not the point. We cannot sell the club until its out of the way and the wait only damages us. So in essence what they are saying is give us some money and we will not take this further and you will survive if not you might go to the wall. They are opportunists and people should look at them as they are, two clubs scavenging off the bones of another to get a few quid. If not why didn't Wycombe go after Wednesday or Reading. Why didn't Gibson go after Villa, its because neither is in administration. Because they submitted their yearly accounts into the EFL and we didn't submit any for 2 - 3 years, we don't know what was discovered if anything after the administrators submitted the outstanding accounts. Did MM have something to hide? r_wilcockson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 12 hours ago, Eatonram said: Fair point Bobbster, in that no one can say for sure that QPR cost us promotion by their overspend......just as no one can say for sure that DCFC cost Boro promotion or Wycombe relegation by our much smaller overspend.....The difference is that DCFC are being sued and QPR were not, despite us argueably having a stronger case. What Galls is that we have been publicly lambasted far more than any other Club, denied Covid loans and now being sued for far more than the fine you actually paid and yet not a single Club, even previous transgressors like QPR have offered the slightest support. In fact what did your striker do at Pride Park a few weeks ago? Football is now big business, we are the competition,do you really expect other clubs to show support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 17 minutes ago, atherstoneram said: Football is now big business, we are the competition,do you really expect other clubs to show support. It's more a question of "do you want to set a precedent?" Can any club feel smugly secure in the current climate? There's quite a few reliant on someone buying their star player(s) every season in order to fall within FFP guidelines, many reliant on "soft"loans from individual owners, some owned by Chinese businessmen subject to the whims of their Government. Biters occasionally get bit. I don't expect any of them to do anything but put the boot in, but I don't blame the supporters groups for asking the question. MaltRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipley Ram Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 1 hour ago, atherstoneram said: Because they submitted their yearly accounts into the EFL and we didn't submit any for 2 - 3 years, we don't know what was discovered if anything after the administrators submitted the outstanding accounts. Did MM have something to hide? I've come to think the lack of accounts was to hide the fact he was unable/unwilling to support the club anymore from us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one_chop Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Well it's now Thursday, tomorrow is Christmas eve. 48 is DCFC's unlucky number but that's roughly how many hour's are left to name a preferred bidder. Is this the beginning of the end or the end of the beginning ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2tups Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 31 minutes ago, one_chop said: Well it's now Thursday, tomorrow is Christmas eve. 48 is DCFC's unlucky number but that's roughly how many hour's are left to name a preferred bidder. Is this the beginning of the end or the end of the beginning ? As a Derby fan…happy Christmas. RoyMac5, David Graham Brown, Comrade 86 and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Crewton said: It's more a question of "do you want to set a precedent?" Can any club feel smugly secure in the current climate? There's quite a few reliant on someone buying their star player(s) every season in order to fall within FFP guidelines, many reliant on "soft"loans from individual owners, some owned by Chinese businessmen subject to the whims of their Government. Biters occasionally get bit. I don't expect any of them to do anything but put the boot in, but I don't blame the supporters groups for asking the question. Wycombe - get up by default, accuse us of cheating and have this beauty on record avoiding dropping down to there true station - sanctimonious shithouses. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/29475533 BriggRam, Crewton, RoyMac5 and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramcoteRam84 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 10 hours ago, ramswriter podcast said: I spoke to Andy Appleby yesterday - confirmed him and Gadsby is false https://theramswriter.wordpress.com/2021/12/22/former-owners-will-not-join-forces/ Thanks for this update. Think most of us thought it was Nixon BS. From your conversations with him, is Andy Appleby actually part of a consortium looking to buy the club and if successful would he be involved in some way post purchase, or is it very much in his capacity now as a fixer, his company with Sam Rush and Jez Moxey in putting the right bidders in touch with football clubs and helping broker a deal. I’m thinking it’s more the latter but I’ve seen various posters questioning or praising the virtues of Appleby as an owner and what would mean for the club going forward. Now they could’ve misunderstood the nature of his bid or something may have changed and he is now involved in a bid himself not bidding on someone’s behalf. Any clarification (if you can provide it) would be awesome. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eatonram Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 8 hours ago, atherstoneram said: Football is now big business, we are the competition,do you really expect other clubs to show support. Not support as I said later but I think it is in all the other Club’s interest that Clubs suing each other over rule breaches that have been dealt with by existing disciplinary procedures does not become part of the game due to this precedent. Your response will come as no surprise to anyone. Crewton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 10 hours ago, RAM1966 said: How can Morris the man who went to the football casino of life hoping to win the jackpot (Promotion to the PL), gamble everything, max out his credit card walk away with no debts, but expect to take a final payday? Its morally corrupt and the EFL should close this loop..... If you read it properly, no one is saying he is expecting an such thing (unless I’ve missed a post along the way). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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