Heisenberg Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 There’s a good piece on where ‘the takeover’ stands by Matt Slater in The Athletic, this morning. Worth a read if you’re a subscriber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 11 minutes ago, Heisenberg said: There’s a good piece on where ‘the takeover’ stands by Matt Slater in The Athletic, this morning. Worth a read if you’re a subscriber. Lol. Lots of bet-hedging going on! Does it tell us what happened to The Sheik who is apparently having (transfer) input without having any money?!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 53 minutes ago, Heisenberg said: There’s a good piece on where ‘the takeover’ stands by Matt Slater in The Athletic, this morning. Worth a read if you’re a subscriber. Doesn't say much at all. It effectively dismisses the Socfin document as untrue, but then goes on to quote figures from it. Then it says 'Simply put, The Athletic has not spoken to a single accountant, agent, banker, broker, football finance expert, former investor or potential investor who still thinks BZI will complete this deal.' Seems fair enough, but the reality of the situation is that none of those people will have any idea of the actual situation, so they are effectively just guessing. The reality is that no one outside of the inner circle of Mel and BZI have a clue what's going on and it's even possible that Mel is pretty much in the dark as to what will eventually happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OoooMarkWright Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Heisenberg said: There’s a good piece on where ‘the takeover’ stands by Matt Slater in The Athletic, this morning. Worth a read if you’re a subscriber. A long, well written piece that doesn’t reveal anything new. The Athletic think it won’t happen, no new facts or information to base it on. Everyone is still in the dark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mihangel Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 21 minutes ago, CornwallRam said: Doesn't say much at all. It effectively dismisses the Socfin document as untrue, but then goes on to quote figures from it. Then it says 'Simply put, The Athletic has not spoken to a single accountant, agent, banker, broker, football finance expert, former investor or potential investor who still thinks BZI will complete this deal.' Seems fair enough, but the reality of the situation is that none of those people will have any idea of the actual situation, so they are effectively just guessing. The reality is that no one outside of the inner circle of Mel and BZI have a clue what's going on and it's even possible that Mel is pretty much in the dark as to what will eventually happen. Precisely - I'll re-word that sentence for them:- "Simply put, The Athletic has not spoken to a single accountant, agent, banker, broker, football finance expert, former investor or potential investor. We did speak to Kieran Maguire, a teacher who, as we all know, doesn't know his backside from his elbow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oomarkwright Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 A lot of speculation so we just need to sit tight and wait for something as us plebs can't change anything anyway so why worry. Innit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamUltraRam Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1.2m views on this thread - for something that hasn't happened Derby fans frantically pressing refresh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 I think one thing we can all agree on: this has been without question the most unenjoyable season I have ever had supporting Derby. Unable to go to games, a transfer saga, on-going legal battles with the EFL and now a team that's made up on mostly loans as we try and secure our second division place. I think back to 05/06 which was cemented in my mind as something that could not be beaten. An average team, consisting of awful loan signings, under an ownership that was destroying the club. We finished 20th that season with Terry Westley doing a decent job in steadying the ship. In hindsight, it was arguably worse but at least we could go to games. The protests throughout the season made for some entertainment too. It's definitely up for debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 I bet Pearce and Morris are not talking to the Sheikh anymore for day in, day out decision making! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Ram Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 One interesting thing I took from that article was that they seem to think Mel is waiting for an exclusivity agreement with BZI to end before he can find another buyer. Fair to speculate that the Stephen Pearce mini PR tour was less about keeping the fans at bay and more about keeping up the charade so that players wouldn’t flat out refuse to come here in January, like the Pritchard situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mihangel Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Leicester Ram said: One interesting thing I took from that article was that they seem to think Mel is waiting for an exclusivity agreement with BZI to end before he can find another buyer. That's part of the problem I have with the article, it's littered with suppositions and hypotheses - What it says regarding exclusivity is "The takeover is between him and BZI for as long as any exclusivity agreement he has signed with BZI lasts". As I said, that is a simply a hypothesis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olton Ram Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, ShoreRam said: That's part of the problem I have with the article, it's littered with suppositions and hypotheses - What it says regarding exclusivity is "The takeover is between him and BZI for as long as any exclusivity agreement he has signed with BZI lasts". As I said, that is a simply a hypothesis. Even if such an exclusivity agreement existed, you would hope that there's a clause that means that the buyer actually produces the necessary funds, preferably within a specific time frame, or the agreement lapses. Otherwise, if a buyer has an exclusivity agreement but insufficient funds to move the purchase forward the club is left in limbo and unable to pursue alternative deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Remember the story of the Sheikh with a similar name to our Sheikh buying an Israeli club? It turns out he's not quite as wealthy as they thought. Of course that doesn't mean that our guy is faking it, but I'm bored so I thought I'd post it anyway. https://www.timesofisrael.com/report-emirati-co-owner-of-beitar-jlem-feared-to-have-overstated-his-wealth/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkleyram Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Ambitious said: I think one thing we can all agree on: this has been without question the most unenjoyable season I have ever had supporting Derby. Unable to go to games, a transfer saga, on-going legal battles with the EFL and now a team that's made up on mostly loans as we try and secure our second division place. I think back to 05/06 which was cemented in my mind as something that could not be beaten. An average team, consisting of awful loan signings, under an ownership that was destroying the club. We finished 20th that season with Terry Westley doing a decent job in steadying the ship. In hindsight, it was arguably worse but at least we could go to games. The protests throughout the season made for some entertainment too. It's definitely up for debate. I don't agree. I miss going more than anything but at least I've had Rams TV - in fact I've watched us play live more than in any other season in 60 years or so - and the hope of going back next season. Off the pitch stuff may get frustrating at times but it's off the pitch and nowhere near as toxic as Maxwell and the 3 amigos or as disappointing as Brian going (and then nearly coming back) or as close to extinction as the High Court (though that may yet happen). And we have the basis of a good team, some youngsters coming through, what appears to be a pretty good team spirit, an interesting managerial team that appears to be committed and one that has certainly had an impact. 2007/08 was far, far worse for me. Dispiriting on and off the pitch. The only interest in going was to watch the different ways we invented to lose games, no commitment to anything even each other, no team, no spirit, no effort. And Andy Todd's comments, truthful though they may be, still make me angry about everyone involved in that campaign from the Scottish nerk onwards, with the possible and honourable exception of Darren Moore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 If this season has been a struggle next season can only be viewed as being much worse - we have spent most of next seasons season ticket already - tough times ahead financially Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oomarkwright Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 5 hours ago, Ambitious said: I think one thing we can all agree on: this has been without question the most unenjoyable season I have ever had supporting Derby. Unable to go to games, a transfer saga, on-going legal battles with the EFL and now a team that's made up on mostly loans as we try and secure our second division place. I think back to 05/06 which was cemented in my mind as something that could not be beaten. An average team, consisting of awful loan signings, under an ownership that was destroying the club. We finished 20th that season with Terry Westley doing a decent job in steadying the ship. In hindsight, it was arguably worse but at least we could go to games. The protests throughout the season made for some entertainment too. It's definitely up for debate. Surely 07-08 were worse. We still have something to play for in February whereas we were about down already. 83-84 was pretty bad too. Only Bobby Davison a glimmer of hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 5 hours ago, Leicester Ram said: One interesting thing I took from that article was that they seem to think Mel is waiting for an exclusivity agreement with BZI to end before he can find another buyer. This may be right, judging from the way it is all dragging on. If it’s true, then Mel needs to find some new lawyers. Seems very careless that he can start discussions in May, sign heads of terms in November, and still be bound by exclusivity in Feb despite the Sheikh saying he’d close in Dec and failing to do so. Quite possible however that the Athletic have got it wrong ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 12 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: Lol. Lots of bet-hedging going on! Does it tell us what happened to The Sheik who is apparently having (transfer) input without having any money?!! 'apparently' being the operative word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 15 hours ago, Heisenberg said: There’s a good piece on where ‘the takeover’ stands by Matt Slater in The Athletic, this morning. Worth a read if you’re a subscriber. Also on The Athletic today is an article pondering on the UK holding this summer's Euro's. It suggests one group will divide games between Old Trafford and Pride Park, seeing as the King Power needs a new pitch in the summer. I'm guessing research isn't their strong point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrisoner Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 7 minutes ago, Rev said: Also on The Athletic today is an article pondering on the UK holding this summer's Euro's. It suggests one group will divide games between Old Trafford and Pride Park, seeing as the King Power needs a new pitch in the summer. I'm guessing research isn't their strong point. Depends if they mean UEFA's European football tournament or Euro Offroad Tractor Racing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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