S8TY Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 11 hours ago, Obi1Kenobi0 said: 1. Looking at the likes of Leicester, admiring what they've achieved and thinking that could have been us. 2. Play Off final defeats. In fact with the number of times we've made the play offs let's just call it "everything about the play offs". 3. Usually selling our best players on the cheap. Huddlestone to Spurs, Hughes to Watford, going further back Wright and Saunders to Liverpool rankle the most. Your first point is very apt as I keep thinking the same...Leicester will always be behind us in terms of crowd and stature as a club IMO.....had many a row in Leicester lol and hated filbert street especially on night games...they dodged paying what they owed and cleared there debts whilst we payed ours!!...now when i see good players like Maddison and co and them being half decent i think that could and maybe should've been us!! Selling Goddard when he and Saunders were the best partnership in the league at the time was poor is another that rankles me Tommy Doc era was horrendous and he came with so much expectation then appointed managers like Colin Addison and John Newman and generally went downhill until we appointed Cox Not beating QP ha ha was hard to swallow....we really missed out as we were the best side I've seen in some time playing some great football and i truly beleive we would've done ok in the prem with that squad and a few additions and lost to a tin pot london club who still didn't take as many fans as we did that day and came straight back down ...daylight robbery and I truly beleive that Russell would've scored if he hadn't been poleaxed by clogger O'Neill !! ..........if only!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S8TY Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 10 hours ago, uttoxram75 said: 1976 FA Cup Semi Final Manchester United v Derby County at Hillsborough. Derby station, train after train after train packed full heading to Sheffield. Thousands of us milling round for what seemed like hours nervously drinking cans of beer (no dark fruits in those days), smoking fags until we finally managed to squeeze onto one of the trains specially laid on by British Rail that day. The short journey on the train was riotous, singing, hanging out the windows, absolute mayhem. It was our year. We were favourites. We'd won the League the season before and were in with an outside chance of retaining the title. Arriving in Sheffield, marching to the ground in a huge convoy of Rams, arriving at the turnstiles, hordes of United fans suddenly appearing, fights breaking out everywhere, one Manc Bamford tried to take my ticket off me, I nutted him and some older lads made sure he didn't do it to anyone else. I was 16. In the stadium Derby fans let thousands of blue and white balloons off as the players came out. The game went against us, United scored then we had a perfectly good goal disallowed and they got a second. Fights raged in the open end alongside a flimsy fence all through the second half, although we were the better team on paper we just couldn't rise to the occasion, without our talisman, Charlie George who had been broken by Stoke a couple of weeks before, we lacked a cutting edge. Walking back to the station was pretty savage. Derby fans were attacking any Utd fans who they could get at with the police at full stretch, dogs, horses and truncheons all over the place. We finished the season in 4th place and FA Cup Semi Finalists and thought it was a disaster! How time have changed. The following season Dave Mackay was sacked early on and the decline set in. I'm sure many will have different memories of that match but its stuck in my mind ever since. I hate Man Utd. Brilliant Post ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimeram Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 18 hours ago, Bob The Badger said: 1. Charlie George getting injured against Stoke and missing the end of what could well have been a double winning season? 2. Juventus bribing the referee in the European Cup Semi-Final and getting away with it? 3. The last minute winner for QPR at Wembley? 4. Paulo Wanchope not getting goal of the month after his brilliance against Man Utd? 5. None of the above - so come on, what is it then? Let's get bitter and twisted. I'm going for #1. That was truly the start of the decline imho. No 2 Then Clough resigning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xlor Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 I'm sure someone will correct me if im wrong but spending more money in division 2 (championship) than any club in division 1 (prem) on the likes of kitson, johnson, gabbiadini, short etc and not going up. Maxwell's millions. Kubick And knoflicek. That Argentine striker who's name escapes me. 3 mill and couldn't play. Edit. Fuertes ^^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Should we have a comparative thread on what makes forest fans bitter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 23 minutes ago, Xlor said: I'm sure someone will correct me if im wrong but spending more money in division 2 (championship) than any club in division 1 (prem) on the likes of kitson, johnson, gabbiadini, short etc and not going up. Maxwell's millions. Kubick And knoflicek. That Argentine striker who's name escapes me. 3 mill and couldn't play. Edit. Fuertes ^^^^ They were Pickering's millions. At least one of those millions was spent on Mark Pembridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramit Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 i've been shocked, disappointed, confused, frustrated, annoyed and even angry a few times, but never bitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 11 hours ago, sunnyhill60 said: One of my blackest memories as well, and we never recovered. We won one more game that season and in the following 4 seasons up to relegation managed to lose more than we won., with the help of some "stellar signings", not least Docherty Yes, I was there too. We drove up and somehow got caught in the crush among Utd fans as their team bus arrived. I remember Tommy Docherty waving/leering at us as I was desperately hanging on to my duffel coat (remember those?) so that I didn't expose my Derby scarf underneath. The game was awful, we should have won but for that stupid refereeing decision and as others said, it finished our season. I never understood the club subsequently signing Hill or Docherty as every fan hated both. Probably the worst I have ever felt as a Derby fan as before I had known only success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuffLuff Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 My era essentially is mid nineties onwards, so I think any ‘bitter’ moment I have probably pales in comparison to previously mentioned moments. The one that sticks out in my mind was the summer before the premier league season after the play off final. Davies, and the club as a whole, completely under estimated what they needed going into one of the most toughest premier leagues there has been (In terms of quality throughout each side). Don’t forget all the contract stuff. Relegation was always on the cards, but the wasted money called for a complete overhaul and financial reshuffle rather than that money giving us a base to build upon. That’s not even considering the bruised egos felt by the fans. The fact that 10 years later Davies does an interview with RamsTV, he still can’t just say ‘sorry we as a club got that season completely wrong’ he tries to place the blame with the owners not getting players he wanted. He’s been thinking about this for 10 years and he still can’t think that maybe he got something wrong and apologise. The filthy little piece of toe rag. Honourable mentions:- Rowett’s treatment of Martin Pearson’s treatment of Martin *At the time* the sacking of Clough, turned out ok in the end. Maybe can be put under a bitterness banner called The Rise And Fall of Sam Rush. Will never forget going to a pub meeting with John Vicars and Sam Rush, where Rush asked the fans whether we were happy with Clough and had genuine shock on his face when the vast majority attended said yes. I know the Clough years split opinion but I’ve always held some bitterness towards how long that sacking had been planned by Rush. It wasn’t wrong per se, but it was a filthy bit of business, the filthy piece of toe rag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewe Ram Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Letting two of the most loved players go to West Ham - Paolo Wanchope and Igor Stimac. I mean, West Ham?? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 16 hours ago, Owd miner said: Selling paul Goddard wa a bad un as well Only got him over Liverpool because we agreed to sell him to a London club if one came in for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaLocks Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 17 hours ago, Dean (hick) Saunders said: Cheating Leicester bamfords in the playoff final taking out Martin Taylor to score the winner. ?????? It wasn't the winner, it was the equaliser and - to ths day - I have no clue what Jossie Williams was doing on the line to not clear it. Don't forget Harkes missed an absolute sitter to win it (Johnson had also missed a even easier one in in the first half). To be fair, we only had ourselves to blame in that one. I'm bitter about two things - one that Forest built a team that won two European Cups with our players at the core. O'Hare, McGovern, Gemmill were the beating heart of that side. No club of our resepctive size will ever do that again and it could have been us. I actually don't hate Forest for it, I think any football fan would appreciate the act, but I do despise the fates for conspiring to make sure it wasn't us. Second, it's not one season but I am bitter that we have underperformed in the way we have for most of my lifetime. I was fortunate enough - just - to see the glory years but since then we have been pretty poor more often than not. A club of our size, with our support, should have spent more time at the top table and I don't say we deserve it but I do say that when I compare our success to Leicester, Stoke, Norwich, Forest, Portsmouth, Middlebourough, Ipswich, Wolves, Southampton, Watford even the likes of QPR or Wigan I would argue strongly we have seriously underperformed against where we should be. I can count the cup runs on one hand in my lifetime - it's a really poor return on investment and I hope we balance it up a bit in the next half of my life supporting them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 29 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said: They were Pickering's millions. At least one of those millions was spent on Mark Pembridge. The new Gemill as per the DET report after his debut . We also broke the British record fee for a defender on Short . Started at 750,000 then it got out of hand when we kept raising Blackburns bid like angry E-Bay competitors. 2.5 mill for Short, good god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaftesbury Street Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 This - Stuart Atwell being ducking insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irobinson Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Juventus semi final - cheating Brian leaving Hillsborough Semi Final Selling Colin Todd to Everton losing Deano and Wright to Liverpool after relegation money grabbing players QPR play off final not bitter honest... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Xlor said: I'm sure someone will correct me if im wrong but spending more money in division 2 (championship) than any club in division 1 (prem) on the likes of kitson, johnson, gabbiadini, short etc and not going up. Maxwell's millions. Kubick And knoflicek. That Argentine striker who's name escapes me. 3 mill and couldn't play. Edit. Fuertes ^^^^ Whilst they were Pickering's millions, not Maxwell's, it was an entertaining time at the BBG. We had some great games and atmospheres around that 1992 time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 35 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said: Whilst they were Pickering's millions, not Maxwell's, it was an entertaining time at the BBG. We had some great games and atmospheres around that 1992 time. And those players gave me what is still my fondest BBG memory - the 3-3 draw in the cup against Sheffield Wednesday. Just don't let Paul Warhurst have the ball...oh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Moving to Pride Park. Disaster, should never have left the baseball ground Giving William away. Disaster, and i like Rowett aside from that I still haven’t watched the QPR game, not sure why It kills me but it does, I have watched the villa final a bunch and not bothered about that one bit but the QPR game, nope I’m never going to watch it back....and what makes It weirder is that i genuinely don’t care about going up. The victims stopping me traveling across Europe to watch the Super Rams win the UEFA cup, at the time i thought, its ok, we will be in Europe every year..... And finally I am bitter every year we decide not to go for one of the cups and play out reserves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 1 minute ago, MuespachRam said: And finally I am bitter every year we decide not to go for one of the cups and play out reserves. Bar last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsmini Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 It's got to be the game against Juventus, we should have got through to final that season, then who knows what could have happened. Clough and Taylor leaving put us back as a club. All the top players in that period wanted to come to Derby. Losing to Man Utd in the FA Cup was very hard to take. Everything after was just Derby being Derby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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