TimRam Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Dethorn said: I haven't got to a game yet this season but I am guessing then that the televised games have been his weaker performances ? Because dare I say it, I haven't seen a lot - do not get me wrong, what I have seen is good, but not quite as good as I was expecting or as I hear here. There are a few videos showing his skill which, during a match, we might not notice. Looks a future star in the making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbobram Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 On 31/08/2018 at 20:41, EulogyForEvolution said: Yeah, the dream scenario would be for him to help us get promotion this season. Then get loaned back to us for our first season in the Prem. Then Chelski decide to flog him to us after that. The chances are slim, but it wouldn't be the first time Chelsea have let talent go without properly recognising their potential. See Keven De Bruyne. See Mo Salah. See Romelu Lukaku. See Arjen Robben. The list goes on. The good thing is that it is Chelsea. They don't rate their own. They would rather buy someone in. Prime example. Loftus-cheek. More than capable of flourishing in that Chelsea team, but no, get Barkley in and loan LC out. I can see the same with Mason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperFrankieL Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Dethorn said: I haven't got to a game yet this season but I am guessing then that the televised games have been his weaker performances ? Because dare I say it, I haven't seen a lot - do not get me wrong, what I have seen is good, but not quite as good as I was expecting or as I hear here. Think he's getting better with each match. He needs to get on the ball more in order to influence the game but every game he shows some great skill(great touches, flicks, and takeons, etc.). I reckon the introduction of THudd will also allow him to get on the ball more and the midfield will be more in control of games. His best performances have probably been Preston and the Hull cup game. Was a solid showing against Hull in the league match too with a clever stepover/leave for Zoon's winner to top it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Dethorn said: I haven't got to a game yet this season but I am guessing then that the televised games have been his weaker performances ? Because dare I say it, I haven't seen a lot - do not get me wrong, what I have seen is good, but not quite as good as I was expecting or as I hear here. People are raving about him because he’s having regular tangible impacts on games and producing game winning moments of brilliance, which at his age is amazing. But I agree, we could do with him having a greater impact on general play. Currently he’s working hard and pressing with the odd flashes of brilliance. He needs to do more. He needs to aim to have a similar impact to the one Bryson did in 13/14 in terms of general play at the very least. Bryson in 13/14 was averaging 44.3 passes a game with an 85% accuracy. On top of this he was making frequent off the ball runs to stretch the play. Mount’s averaging 27.1 passes a game with only 69.7% of those accurate. Get him a bit deeper and get him involved with the game, even if he isn’t having a tangible effect on the match then get him stretching the game with deep runs and by keeping the ball ticking over. He’s intelligent enough and fit enough to do this without it impacting on his goal threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 32 minutes ago, cannable said: People are raving about him because he’s having regular tangible impacts on games and producing game winning moments of brilliance, which at his age is amazing. But I agree, we could do with him having a greater impact on general play. Currently he’s working hard and pressing with the odd flashes of brilliance. He needs to do more. He needs to aim to have a similar impact to the one Bryson did in 13/14 in terms of general play at the very least. Bryson in 13/14 was averaging 44.3 passes a game with an 85% accuracy. On top of this he was making frequent off the ball runs to stretch the play. Mount’s averaging 27.1 passes a game with only 69.7% of those accurate. Get him a bit deeper and get him involved with the game, even if he isn’t having a tangible effect on the match then get him stretching the game with deep runs and by keeping the ball ticking over. He’s intelligent enough and fit enough to do this without it impacting on his goal threat. If we have Huddlestone and Johnson fit he will have greater freedom to support the front three. If that three was Josefzoon, Waghorn and Wilson we could pose some serious threat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edtheram Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 I dont think Bryson is helping him. Need to get Hudds back in and play Johno with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shang Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 19 hours ago, Dethorn said: I haven't got to a game yet this season but I am guessing then that the televised games have been his weaker performances ? Because dare I say it, I haven't seen a lot - do not get me wrong, what I have seen is good, but not quite as good as I was expecting or as I hear here. I'm pretty sure he's scored more goals than all our strikers put together this season. Surely that's all you need to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dethorn Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 31 minutes ago, Shang said: I'm pretty sure he's scored more goals than all our strikers put together this season. Surely that's all you need to know. Oh silly me - thats alright then although as pointed out by an earlier poster both could have been saved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo jones Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 47 minutes ago, Dethorn said: Oh silly me - thats alright then although as pointed out by an earlier poster both could have been saved. Pretty much. As ive said previously in the many discussions about Mount, he’s an attacking midfielder, his job is to create and score goals in the final third. Some people seem to have been under the impression we was signing a centre mid who will dominate a game. He is not that player. he is more tom Lawrence than will Hughes. Anyone expecting him to run the show from midfield will be disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealhantsram Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Great highlight reel here from his first month and a bit. Loads of neat flicks and deft touches that I missed in real time. Really impressive for such a short time with us so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wignall12 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 On 06/09/2018 at 11:35, Dethorn said: Oh silly me - thats alright then although as pointed out by an earlier poster both could have been saved. ..............but weren't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 On 06/09/2018 at 11:35, Dethorn said: although as pointed out by an earlier poster both could have been saved. 48 minutes ago, Wignall12 said: ..............but weren't If you want to win the lottery, you've got to buy a ticket. Lampard is Chelsea's all-time top scorer and he had loads of shots. Mount could have had ten goals already this season; he is like his mentor in terms of always getting into good positions and at least having a go. It's so much better to see than previous shot-shy Derby teams who passed it sideways instead of having a go. He might well be a 20 goal midfielder this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 The way Mount plays & the trust he has from Lampard. I'd be surprised if he doesn't at least meet Vydra's tally from last season. He's young & could have a dip, but he's always producing something. It makes me laugh that Grealish is so highly rated by the media, yet Mount has one more goal in August than he managed last season in all competitions. Grealish has abillity, sure, but Mount just strikes me as one of those players that will score regularly because he's got too much ability on the edge of the box. It's his speed of thought as much as his quality. The step over to allow the ball into Jozefzoon, not many - if any - teenagers would think about not having that shot there at that point in the game. In fact, barely any players in world football wouldn't have that shot - not just teenagers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Ambitious said: It makes me laugh that Grealish is so highly rated by the media, yet Mount has one more goal in August than he managed last season in all competitions. Grealish has abillity, sure, but Mount just strikes me as one of those players that will score regularly because he's got too much ability on the edge of the box. It's his speed of thought as much as his quality. I’m not sure that’s entirely fair though… Grealish constantly backs up play, keeps things ticking and can carry it through tight spaces whereas Mount is pure numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyPowell Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 On 31/08/2018 at 19:19, Ellafella said: I’m aware you’re aware I’m aware with the fairies ? are you aware of how much awareness mount shows in the penalty area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 1 hour ago, cannable said: I’m not sure that’s entirely fair though… Grealish constantly backs up play, keeps things ticking and can carry it through tight spaces whereas Mount is pure numbers Grealish is a bit inconsistent, but yes, overall probably the best player in the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollycutts1982 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Mount will only get better and he gets use to the league and his team mates. Like has been said enjoy him while he is here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dethorn Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 On 05/09/2018 at 15:09, Dethorn said: I haven't got to a game yet this season but I am guessing then that the televised games have been his weaker performances ? Because dare I say it, I haven't seen a lot - do not get me wrong, what I have seen is good, but not quite as good as I was expecting or as I hear here. To be fair I wasn't knocking the lad just asking if I had missed the best of him ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronRam 140.6 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 I find Jack Grealish similar to Ed Sheeran. I just dont get either of em. Plenty of better exponenents out there. Connor Hurricane (when he was at Barnsley) affected games way better than Grealish does. Will Hughes, without bring as imposing on a game, was easily better than both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richinspain Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 14 hours ago, Ambitious said: The way Mount plays & the trust he has from Lampard. I'd be surprised if he doesn't at least meet Vydra's tally from last season. He's young & could have a dip, but he's always producing something. It makes me laugh that Grealish is so highly rated by the media, yet Mount has one more goal in August than he managed last season in all competitions. Grealish has abillity, sure, but Mount just strikes me as one of those players that will score regularly because he's got too much ability on the edge of the box. It's his speed of thought as much as his quality. The step over to allow the ball into Jozefzoon, not many - if any - teenagers would think about not having that shot there at that point in the game. In fact, barely any players in world football wouldn't have that shot - not just teenagers. He also let the ball run to Nugent for the goal at Millwall instead of taking a touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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