Reggie Greenwood

4 minutes ago, DCFC1388 said:

Breaching financial regulations according to Percys article. What they are exactly nobody knows, but you would think they relate to the accounts and/or the P&S cycles considering the Accounts deadline this week

Alleged breach it said in the tweet/article. Just likes they alleged we valued the stadium wrongly ?

Just now, RoyMac5 said:

Apparently we should accept a points deduction according to Percy because:

So he's guessing. What would we have to appeal over?

Nick Hemstock needs English lessons 

21 minutes ago, Icomeinpeace said:

And football in England was indeed called "soccer" originally but that is not the name that was officially adopted and agreed upon as the canon name for the game and the vagaries of a random printer's mis-spelling a hundred years ago not more dictates the name of a club for perpetuity than I don't know if your teacher wrote Philip rather than Phillip on your school report. But by all means sit in the corner of the pub chuntering in to your beer that "it is Notts - I read it once so there".... while the rest of the world just smiles in your direction, sighs and carries on with things that aren't utterly trivial. 

I had come to offer some discussion, insight and exchange about the actual game   

 

  

Just now, RadioactiveWaste said:

I read it as 9 points being the EFLs opening stance. DCFC obviously starting with "we've done nothing wrong"

So at a guess we'll end up between 3-6 deduction with more suspended.

Presumably also we are going to flat out refuse any kind of further EFL say in our business dealings. Costs have been cut is subsequent years so it's not really like resolving a current overspend.

It stinks but as I’ve said elsewhere I can understand the reasoning especially if a take over is near 

Just now, Will Hughes Hair said:

Anybody else had the thought cross their mind that Derby have released info to Percy to manage expectations?

Knowing we’re going to cop for a three point deduction, we use an unofficial comms route to indicate a 9pt penalty is on the table. Then bingo, a big reveal and the three point deduction doesn’t look so bad.

Expect a “brilliant rearguard action by Mel” narrative, so he saves face.

And expect a further six points suspended so the EFL save face too.

I for one wouldn’t like it but can see the reasoning 

3 minutes ago, Elwood P Dowd said:

A 3 point deduction with a 3 points suspended would be an excellent result.

 

 

For the EFL , but I get where some might feel this 

1 minute ago, Jimbo Ram said:

One way or another it will be good to put an end to it and move on…

Not with 9 points it wouldn’t. Smacks of EFL trying to save face and trying to get us to agree to something to move on. 

4 minutes ago, Elwood P Dowd said:

I maybe wrong but I think we could appeal against the punishment the EFL give us but not the verdict.

It makes sense to agree the punishment as it brings the issue to a close for both parties and removes the need for further appeals

If Percy is right it looks like we really breached the FFP in a number of seasons ???

9 points ????

The punishment for the EFL case was £100K. This is different it’s the restated accounts 

1 minute ago, Reggie Greenwood said:

Take a look at fixture lists and league tables going back years. Always says Notts Forest. Will post a few up for you ?

2 minutes ago, Icomeinpeace said:

Hi Rams fans - undercover red here and as the name says I do come in peace, never quite got my head round the bad feeling between our two sides, anyway - to your point we have not been called Notts for over 100 years - the World Famous City Ground is indeed in the county and we moved there in 1898 but of course it was not always so. Forest originally played Shinty until 1865 when a meeting was called and we decided to switch to football and so formed the NFFC which makes us the world's oldest professional football club (since County's relegation to the national league) - the team played at various places with the city but in the most basic sense the club represented the City while Notts County represented the County - pretty simple really. We hate it for the same reason you'd hate being called Derby City or Derby Town, its not your name. It is weird that while we play at a stadium outside the City while Notts County's ground Meadow Lane in inside the city limits. 

As for the game I can confirm that many of us think you have a good chance to get your first win since 2017 because for all his faults Rooney's apparently managed to at least create a fighting spirit and siege mentality which is working for you while we don't seem to know what we're doing apart from making a team that is less than the sum of its parts. 

Take a look at fixture lists and league tables going back years. Always says Notts Forest. Will post a few up for you ?

Just now, Andrew3000 said:

Jeez 9 points? Not liking the sound of this....oh well, let's get it done.

If it was 9 points and justified why don’t they just apply it ? Sounds like they are trying to save face and hope we will accept something just to get out of the embargo. 

2 minutes ago, Crewton said:

John Percy saying on Twitter we're trying to reach agreement on punishment with the EFL. They want 9 points, which we're trying to negotiate down. 

If the EFL had a watertight case they wouldn’t negotiate they would just apply it surely 

9 minutes ago, Eatonram said:

As Boro actively and directly took part in the disciplinary process, they should really play no part in the decision, and Derby should be making this point.

As Stephen Pearce did when he was involved. Stepped aside 

24 minutes ago, ossieram said:

Years ago on the popside we sang " by the light of the silvery moon " and "home on the range" for no particular reason, but they both sounded good with a few thousand blasting it out.

Yes " By the light of the silvery moon " was our song and sung on the popside in the 70's . Not sure when it fell out of favour/

Can also remember when the Heanor lads used to chant "Heanor , Heanor " and the popside would respond "Sharples , Sharples " ( You would have to have watched 70's Coronation St to get that ?).

4 hours ago, RadioactiveWaste said:

Still don't understand why they get so snippy about being called notts.

They're in the borough of Rushcliffe not the city of nottingham and everyone calls notingham notts for short anyway, but it seems to really wind them up?!

Perhaps the mods should let @Red_Dawn and @eezzeetiger onto the thread to explain? Their previous owner said they were house trained and only very rarely ? on the rug these days.

They have been called Notts for over 100 years. Only recent comers get shirty over it 

1 minute ago, Reggie Greenwood said:

0-3 hope the bakery burner doesn’t sack him before Saturday 

Blinked and missed another 0-4 ?

1 minute ago, hydraulic ram said:

Meanwhile, another game with no shots on target at the the pity ground ?

0-4 ?

0-3 hope the bakery burner doesn’t sack him before Saturday 

Just now, dcfcreece1601 said:

Typical Derby premier league first half conference team 2nd half,  atleast we can concentrate on the league we don't have the depth for cups on top of the league anyway lol ?

Played well 2nd half as well 

Just now, Sparkle said:

10 changes for the red dogs tonight but they have got about 40 players or something like that 

All over 70 though 

Just now, Barney1991 said:

In all fairness reading that however confusing it is it actually sounds to me like the accounts haven’t been filed 

Or they were filed already and additional info or clarification has been added 

5 minutes ago, sage said:

What size penalty would people accept to put the umbongo behind us?

Nil 

1 hour ago, Ghost of Clough said:

Strange if so. Named club captain in July and was the 2nd highest rated player in the league last season... phenomenal for a player who didn't score a single goal.

Wrexham also signed another up and coming Carlisle player this season which upset their fans plus splashed out big cash for Paul Mullin who scored 30 plus goals for Cambridge Utd in the football league. CG probably sold the fantasy of Wrexham’s Hollywood owners. 

5 hours ago, Mostyn6 said:

Sadly, my predictions years ago, have proven to be true. Hughes simply just doesn’t do anything. He looks neat and tidy, but in this stats based industry, he contributes nothing. He’s made no headlines for goals, assists, protecting his defenders, covering ground, shots, pass accuracy or completion etc etc etc… what does he actually contribute? 

Saw some stats that last season with Will playing Watford had a 71% win percentage and  49% when he wasn’t 

3 minutes ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said:

What are we guilty of? 

Nothing