Reggie Greenwood

Pretty sure @RoyMac5 found hidden at the bottom of one of the Daily Fail articles that " sources say we may only get a fine for breach of accountancy practises" backtracking on all the hyperbole in the headlines .

11 hours ago, Rammy03 said:

Looking at the replies to that everyone wants us down. 

Who cares about what other fans think ?? I never have in 50 odd years supporting the Rams .

I am I right in thinking that the EFL can ask for a certain punishment but it’s the tribunal that makes the actual decision ? 

1 minute ago, Abu Derby said:

Presumably we are still under a transfer embargo until this mess is concluded. With several out of contract players leaving, we wouldn’t have a squad good enough to compete never mind make up a points deficit. 

Think you can still sign out of contract players under a certain wage limit ?? 

7 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said:

Seriously where is all this talk of a points deduction come from?

Isnt the only thing being levelled at the club that they did not use the correct wording to explain the accounting policy used for amortisation?

Started by Nixon nonsense and Edinwum 

Just now, Posh Ram said:

Don't have a subscription. Does this article confirm we won't have a points deduction this year?

It only states supposition and guesswork nothing definitive with regards to any punishment. 

Just now, Nuwtfly said:

 

"Possible" so basically it's all guesswork and supposition and the press know about the same as us.

1 minute ago, Curtains said:

The Wycombe Chairman threatening legal action means they won’t stay up and Derby will stay up. 

He has been told something I suspect 

The report I saw said he was “ monitoring “ things. No mention of legal action from his mouth. Probably gave an on the cuff response to a question 

Just now, DarkFruitsRam7 said:

Matt Hughes wasn't it?

One of the Matt’s lol which ever it was  got big egg on face 

7 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said:

Nice of the EFL to allow the Daily Mail to report the outcome before they release a statement. 

Where else would the DM have got their info from, if not from someone at the EFL?

The Daily Mail ( Matt Lawson in particular ) also said we had lost the first case and had a 20 plus points deduction incoming. That proved to be incorrect 

12 minutes ago, Grimbeard said:

Brentford's chief scout.

Think he has left them this season 

12 minutes ago, Sparkle said:

In terms of loopholes we have watched 

Leicester city 

QPR 

Bournemouth  

watford 

Birmingham

Notts florets 

Aston Villa 

to name but a few who have circumvented the ‘rules’ to try to be competitive with the parachute payment clubs.

without question we were ultimately affected by those clubs actions and failed on promotion whilst having tiny expenditure in comparison especially QPR Bournemouth and Watford in my opinion. 

Middlesbrough prime candidates to be added to this list selling clubs debts to Gibsons haulage company.

34 minutes ago, Ambitious said:

The Sun headline is sensationalised (there’s a shock) but the owner of Wycombe mentioned that ‘something is going on at Derby’ which along with a lot of the other comments, i.e Warne saying it’s disappointing we didn’t get relegated, would lead me to believe that a points deduction is incoming. 

It will definitely be applied next season, but this is very similar to Charlton and Wednesday last season. It also makes me believe that we are getting a points deduction which the club are ill-prepared for. I think Reading and a few others are due a point deduction too, so we will have to see how that plays out. I’d imagine like us they can kick the can down the road and prolong it. Half the championship at this point are pretty much due a point deduction in some form or another. 

I would think that the only things Warne and the Wycombe owner know is the clickbait nonsense that Nixon put out. Highly doubt Warne knows anything . Do agree that a lot of clubs could be in financial trouble  though including us as a result of Covid. The EFL should be finding ways of supporting clubs not punishing them. If that's there MO may as well give the relegated clubs  promotion now as they are the only ones who will have any money.

Just now, 1967RAMS said:

I don’t expect they will either I just suggested they could. Certain owners of other EFL clubs, may even finance it. But doubt that too. When the arbitrators of the rules are the rule makers themselves, I just don’t think we can be certain it won’t happen 

Other clubs owner ( Gibson ) tried. He was told its not allowed. They can have no input. 

14 minutes ago, Wolfie20 said:

My understanding is that the EFL has already stated their appeal is in relation to the second charge i.e. the format in which the accounts were submitted. If they decided to re-visit the issue 're the sale of PP and challenged the actual valuation they would be questioning the competency of a heavyweight company with plenty of financial clout to bounce them into then out of court. As stupid and myopic as the EFL are, I doubt even they would consider going down this route - we've already witnessed the furore their last legal bill caused amongst the majority of the member clubs of the Football League.

Not to mention that they did appoint a valuation “ expert” who had no experience valuing stadia , didn’t bother to visit or survey PP ( think his mate drove by ) and compared PP with Morecambe and MK Cuckoos grounds ? , as you say Wolfie they would be laughed out of court by the company DCFC used. 

11 minutes ago, MrPlinkett said:

Looking at Bannan yesterday assume he must be in his early 60s. Cracking comb over.

Same barber as Matt Clarke I think 

8 minutes ago, EdinRam said:

What a measured response.

I’ll give you one last response. Derby have not as far failed FFP so no they haven’t over spent in FFP terms. Middlesborough would have done if they hadn’t sold the club debts to Gibsons own haulage company. That should count as cheating in your eyes as well , as it happens it was not against the rules at the time ( the tax man might have a different view on that still ) . If Gibson is your idea of a clean and virtuous owner as you seem to reference his opinion a lot then my opinion of you as a wum stands 

Just now, Abu Derby said:

Must be fabricated then. 

Who knows but the Daily Mail hit rate is on the low side. I tend to ignore them and Nixon as reliable. Mainly click bait merchants. If it was Percy then it would have more kudos 

5 minutes ago, EdinRam said:

When Gibson brought up ours and wednesdays misdeeds I thought he was full of it and still is on the most part but we overspent and that is cheating. We will receive a points deduction IMO and that will also prove him partly correct. All I have for mel is anger and I want him gone. I am most definitely not a WUM I'm just a very concerned Derby fan and the whole affair gives me massive anxiety.

Bye bye Wum 

1 minute ago, Abu Derby said:

Daily Mail reckons that the EFL have asked Alonso to deposit £35m in a UK bank as proof of funds. He has failed to do so. 

Daily Fail also said we were going to get a 20 point plus deduction and we didn’t. 

Just now, Rab a dab doo said:

I cannot see how the original tribunal could have deemed to have got it so wrong.

If suddenly were going from having not even a fine imposed against us to now on appeal people taking about fines and 'large' points deductions 

What's changed so drastically ? 

New evidence ? New witnesses ?, Rule changes ? If so surely there should be a complete NEW tribunal hearing starting at beginning not an appeal of a decision already reached. 

 

No new evidence is allowed from either party 

1 minute ago, LeedsCityRam said:

Marching on Together. They love talking about Derby ?

Your posting record so far is;

A thread saying we arent a big club in this division & hence aren't too big to go down. And that Watford and QPR are 'bigger' clubs than us

We shouldn't celebrate surviving yesterday as thats tinpot

We have broken FFP rules & should expect get a points deduction 

You reek of an oppo fan. Got anything nice to say about Derby County?

I’ve popped them on ignore 

3 minutes ago, EdinRam said:

What is there to be positive about? I can't be the only one who isn't blind to what mel has done to this football club? 

Not answered the question about the points loss or why Gibson is right. Still think you are a WUM 

1 minute ago, EdinRam said:

Fine at most are you sure? They can most definitely take 12 points from us if the appeal sides with the EFL

Yes i am sure plenty of info at the time. Show the rules that state they can take 12 points off for this For a new poster you seem to have a lot of negativity can’t help wondering if you are a WUM 

Just now, EdinRam said:

You say that but Gibson is partly being proven right when complaining about us and Wednesday, Wednesday are now able to begin their recovery whilst we are still waiting for the punishment. We will most likely start next season on -12 and IMO that will see us off.

Why is Gibson partly proved right ( he has done questionable things in the past to evade FFP selling clubs debts to his haulage company ). Derby were within the rules. Wednesday would have been if they had put the sale in the correct accounts. 
What the EFL are appealing the punishment will be a fine at most if they win which going on the mess they made 1st time round they won’t ( not allowed to present new evidence ).