Archied Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 56 minutes ago, Comrade 86 said: Bet you regret that roofing analogy now, don't you! 😂 Nah , some just don’t get it or just ignore the fact that no matter what warne ( or clowes it’s beginning to creep to too) does he s going to fall at the next hurdle , and that next hurdle is always rolled out the minute there’s the chance he may get over the one he’s dealing with now , I reckon you’ve kind of figured me out by now , I don’t really think what I say makes any difference in changing anybody’s mind on anything but sometimes I struggle to just leave an echo chamber where it gives the impression we ALL see things the same and stuff is a given 👍😀 Comrade 86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Paul Warne is an inferior Gary Rowett. And Gary Rowett’s team was a horrible watch, despite having top six Championship players. Now imagine Warneball with a bottom eight Championship squad. It’s going to be grim, worse than what Sheffield Wednesday fans have endured this season. That is, of course, if we get promoted this season which I think we will. MackworthRamIsGod and kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcidaho Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 4 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: Paul Warne is an inferior Gary Rowett. And Gary Rowett’s team was a horrible watch, despite having top six Championship players. Now imagine Warneball with a bottom eight Championship squad. It’s going to be grim, worse than what Sheffield Wednesday fans have endured this season. That is, of course, if we get promoted this season which I think we will. Proper wrist slashing stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 21 hours ago, Bris Vegas said: Preston and Bristol City both sacked previous managers for playing pragmatic defensive football and went on to hire managers who favor possession-based football. Norwich still have parachute payments and have decent players, while a number of their fans want Wagner out. It’s not a case that you can’t succeed with lesser possession. Derby are proof of that in League One as we are 11th in that category. Warne can get away with it in League One as we simply have better players than the rest and the opposition standards are so much lower. In League One we are 11th for possession, 8th for shots per game, 11th for pass accuracy and 6th for chances created. Yet we are 2nd in the league, which is a clear indication that our extra quality is seeing us over the line. That won’t be the case in the league above. Yes, but that's all stats, which we are told don't count...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Returning ram Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 12 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: Paul Warne is an inferior Gary Rowett. And Gary Rowett’s team was a horrible watch, despite having top six Championship players. Now imagine Warneball with a bottom eight Championship squad. It’s going to be grim, worse than what Sheffield Wednesday fans have endured this season. That is, of course, if we get promoted this season which I think we will. How about a little wager on it 😊 I'm confident to say that if we get promoted this season we stay up next 😏 Carnero and On the Ram Page 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 1 hour ago, Bris Vegas said: Paul Warne is an inferior Gary Rowett. And Gary Rowett’s team was a horrible watch, despite having top six Championship players. Now imagine Warneball with a bottom eight Championship squad. It’s going to be grim, worse than what Sheffield Wednesday fans have endured this season. That is, of course, if we get promoted this season which I think we will. Surely you realise that nothing is set in stone in football? If we get promoted, there will be so many variables at play that will dictate how well or how badly we do, not just the style of play. At this stage, there are far too many unknowns. Saying ‘it’s going to be grim’ and ‘worse than Wednesday have endured’ in February when this season is not even over and pre-season for next season is five months away just seems needless. It might be your gut feeling, but there is enough evidence to suggest that football is too unpredictable and too nuanced to be so dismissive of our chances of improving and adapting to life in the Championship purely on your distaste for the manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 22 hours ago, Crewton said: Ah... about that....you might want to read this thread ⬇️https://www.otib.co.uk/topic/224125-change-in-style/ point being they were a possession based side then changed and went to a counter attacking style. Fine. We are neither, we have no identity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 2 minutes ago, Chris_Martin said: point being they were a possession based side then changed and went to a counter attacking style. Fine. We are neither, we have no identity Point being that, until they beat Southampton last weekend, many of the posters on their forum were regretting changing Pearson for Manning. As for a lack of identity, I'm baffled by that comment, given how so many posters on here bemoan our identity as, apparently, a team that aims to get the ball forward quickly, move it to the wings and put crosses in. On the Ram Page and Archied 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossieram Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 26 minutes ago, Chris_Martin said: point being they were a possession based side then changed and went to a counter attacking style. Fine. We are neither, we have no identity If we play Warne ball, surely that's our identity! Crewton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 17 minutes ago, Crewton said: Point being that, until they beat Southampton last weekend, many of the posters on their forum were regretting changing Pearson for Manning. As for a lack of identity, I'm baffled by that comment, given how so many posters on here bemoan our identity as, apparently, a team that aims to get the ball forward quickly, move it to the wings and put crosses in. but they're not regretting it now... a team that quickly puts loads of crosses in is not an identity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 2 minutes ago, ossieram said: If we play Warne ball, surely that's our identity! which is.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 1 hour ago, Jourdan said: Surely you realise that nothing is set in stone in football? If we get promoted, there will be so many variables at play that will dictate how well or how badly we do, not just the style of play. At this stage, there are far too many unknowns. thats very unspecific what are all these variables then? I'm pretty sure the no.1 thing that determines how well we do, will be how we play football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 17 minutes ago, Chris_Martin said: but they're not regretting it now... a team that quickly puts loads of crosses in is not an identity You've certainly got an identity. On the Ram Page and Archied 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 1 hour ago, Crewton said: You've certainly got an identity. Another thing you cant answer then😅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 4 hours ago, Returning ram said: How about a little wager on it 😊 I'm confident to say that if we get promoted this season we stay up next 😏 I wouldn’t take that wager because we may sack Warne after 10 games and bring in Neil Warnock. Or three other teams may get 10 point deductions. IMO if we keep Warne, then we won’t average higher than 1.2ppg (minimum number of games applied of course) even with a midtable squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossieram Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 2 hours ago, Chris_Martin said: which is.... I haven't got a clue, but I've seen plenty of his critics say that's what we play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTom92 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 9 hours ago, Bris Vegas said: Paul Warne is an inferior Gary Rowett. And Gary Rowett’s team was a horrible watch, despite having top six Championship players. Now imagine Warneball with a bottom eight Championship squad. It’s going to be grim, worse than what Sheffield Wednesday fans have endured this season. That is, of course, if we get promoted this season which I think we will. Complete poppycock. Weds made a risky appointment and the players clearly didn’t play for him. For all of Warne’s faults he knows how to cultivate a good dressing room. I imagine we’d be bottom 8, which is to be expected with our financial clout. But even the admin team would’ve stayed up. Plus if things were as bad as you say. We’d just get rid and hopefully the new man would keep us up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Didn't notice as many crosses at Exeter. None of the goals came from them. Comrade 86, angieram and Kathcairns 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 16 hours ago, On the Ram Page said: I was inaccurate when I said he managed Hartlepool "not very well" but nor was he running away with the League. He was actually recommended to Derby's Chairman by Len Shackleton, which was the main reason, I believe, why he came to Derby. But , the main thrust of my post was that he was relatively unknown before he came hear with no history of success (winning anything) as a manager. My case was to give Warne a chance to prove he can cope with the job he is required to do. Hindsight, wisely interpreted and argued is welcomed on this thread. You informed me earlier. I would suggest you raise your game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) 7 hours ago, Chris_Martin said: but they're not regretting it now... a team that quickly puts loads of crosses in is not an identity How do you define an identity then for a team? Sounds like just one those catchphrases that don’t actually mean anything. Edited February 16 by Tamworthram Kathcairns and Crewton 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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