Walkley Ram Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 5 hours ago, Mostyn6 said: I've always found it weird that people can hate or dislike someone they disagree with on the internet. I blame the government for running down the Pub industry. Back in t'day, these conversations would happen over a table and a beer but everyone was still mates about it. I've had hours of football disagreements with all my mates, especially Liverpool fans! But there's no hatred. People need to grow a backbone and stop being so fecking precious about being "shotdown"... so what if someone thinks you're wrong!! Ed Dawes is marmite for me. In general, he's a pretty good commentator, and anyone who thinks he isn't, should travel around the country and listen to what some clubs have to put up with. Dawes is very high up on the standard of local radio commentary I can assure you. He has been guilty of going rogue in commentary a few times, some attempts at "banter" fell flat, albeit the intention was good. Pubs ruined the pub industry. Serving crap beer in awful environments then moaning that supermarket prices have taken all their trade. Funny how nice pubs with good beer are still going. Anyway. I'm off to the pub. Reggie Greenwood, sage, David Graham Brown and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magicman Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 3 hours ago, silverback said: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssZNaqUDZXk What is the link to ED ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverback Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 2 minutes ago, Magicman said: What is the link to ED ? #acronyms r us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverback Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 10 minutes ago, silverback said: #acronyms r us Have I just had to explain the greatest motor mouth of a generation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen87ITK Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 3 hours ago, eddielewis said: Agree It's no knock on him actually I think Ed would make a good commentator for Rams TV because he would provide a bit more drama whilst not having to provide the play by play. I think RamsTV are okay for a commentator. Reggie Greenwood, Leicester Ram, Old Spalding Ram and 35 others 6 5 26 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob The Badger Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 5 hours ago, Jimbo Ram said: Which 3? Pembridge, Gabiadini and Kitson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 15 hours ago, oodledoodle said: Pubs ruined the pub industry. Serving crap beer in awful environments then moaning that supermarket prices have taken all their trade. Funny how nice pubs with good beer are still going. Anyway. I'm off to the pub. Hmmm....I think Government legislation, punitive business rates, differential taxation between the pub industry and the big supermarkets etc, and the repressive pubco model must take the lion's share of the blame. Changes in demographics have had a big impact too. beardyjim, Walkley Ram, RadioactiveWaste and 2 others 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walkley Ram Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 11 minutes ago, Crewton said: Hmmm....I think Government legislation, punitive business rates, differential taxation between the pub industry and the big supermarkets etc, and the repressive pubco model must take the lion's share of the blame. Changes in demographics have had a big impact too. Definitely didn't help. It meant those pubs who didn't improve, or happened to be in a bad area struggled. But a lot of pubs needed to adapt to survive, and plenty didn't. Agree totally with pubco pubs. I tend to avoid them where possible so I didn't take them into account with the above. I used to run one and we had to sneak our own beer barrels in, bought off the pub over the road. Was the only way we could afford to get beer in that we could sell for a profit. The pedigree the brewery sold us was about twice the price. It was like Marston's wanted us to die. Crewton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alty_Ram Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 45 minutes ago, oodledoodle said: Definitely didn't help. It meant those pubs who didn't improve, or happened to be in a bad area struggled. But a lot of pubs needed to adapt to survive, and plenty didn't. Agree totally with pubco pubs. I tend to avoid them where possible so I didn't take them into account with the above. I used to run one and we had to sneak our own beer barrels in, bought off the pub over the road. Was the only way we could afford to get beer in that we could sell for a profit. The pedigree the brewery sold us was about twice the price. It was like Marston's wanted us to die. We're obviously getting off topic here a bit but round my way, there has been a significant die-off of traditional pubs but very few that I'd miss that much. The good ones are still here and most have thought very carefully about their offering and we are probably at roughly the same density of watering holes overall but now have more 'bars' than traditional pubs, usually offering something a bit different to their pub predecessors though. For example, in amongst the usual pubs we have a tiny sports bar with an excellent array of good European lagers where you inevitably end up chatting to the people next to you because it's such a compact bar, a Belgian themed bar which is pricey but very good plus a totally new-build pub which is the taproom for the local brewery and has nice furniture and the floor isn't sticky with one of those carpets that you can't tell what colour or pattern is was originally 😉. Walkley Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 13 hours ago, Bob The Badger said: Pembridge, Gabiadini and Kitson. You didn’t rate Gabbiadini….really?? Became a 🐏 legend in my view. Mostyn6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WystonRam Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 1 hour ago, Alty_Ram said: We're obviously getting off topic here a bit but round my way, there has been a significant die-off of traditional pubs but very few that I'd miss that much. The good ones are still here and most have thought very carefully about their offering and we are probably at roughly the same density of watering holes overall but now have more 'bars' than traditional pubs, usually offering something a bit different to their pub predecessors though. For example, in amongst the usual pubs we have a tiny sports bar with an excellent array of good European lagers where you inevitably end up chatting to the people next to you because it's such a compact bar, a Belgian themed bar which is pricey but very good plus a totally new-build pub which is the taproom for the local brewery and has nice furniture and the floor isn't sticky with one of those carpets that you can't tell what colour or pattern is was originally 😉. You live in continental Europe then 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob The Badger Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 1 hour ago, Jimbo Ram said: You didn’t rate Gabbiadini….really?? Became a 🐏 legend in my view. That wasn't the conversation. He was ok, but not much more. He was as likely to hit one over the Ossie End roof as into the net, and his control could be atrocious at times. His record of 50 goals in 188 games was hardly prolific, and any legendary status he has now (which is debatable) is more down to his attitude, work rate and clear fondness for Derby. H was the anti-Kitson who had a higher goal per-game rate and was more skilful, but was sulky and lazy. Henrycav81 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 25 minutes ago, Bob The Badger said: He was ok, but not much more. He was as likely to hit one over the Ossie End roof as into the net, and his control could be atrocious at times. His record of 50 goals in 188 games was hardly prolific, and any legendary status he has now (which is debatable) is more down to his attitude, work rate and clear fondness for Derby. H was the anti-Kitson who had a higher goal per-game rate and was more skilful, but was sulky and lazy. We've had some fantastic sides that contrived not to get promoted over the years, but the best is a toss-up between the Johnson/Gabbiadini/Kitson side and the Mac I side. A crying shame that neither was tested in the top flight. As far as J/G/K go, I've followed Derby since around '87 and it's probably in my top 3 most-exciting forward lines during that time, along with Saunders/Goddard and Wanchope/Baiano/Sturridge. J/G/K seemed to complement each over quite nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alty_Ram Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 1 hour ago, WystonRam said: You live in continental Europe then 😂 Feels like it at times ! They partly rebuilt our market next to the old site and turned the old building into a Bier Keller style eatery and drinks hall with different businesses with serving counters looking out onto the main hall. You order whatever sort of drink you want from the relevant serving hatch and likewise food so you can grab a pizza (proper pizza oven) and a glass of wine if that's your thing and sit down next to a mate who opted for a locally made pie and pint from regional and often local breweries. It's amazingly successful but it's crazy busy at weekends so in truth I don't go very often! My excellent local is only 5 mins walk away so don't tend to get past that very often. I believe the market redevelopment won national awards as a redevelopment project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob The Badger Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 1 hour ago, StaffsRam said: J/G/K seemed to complement each over quite nicely. I'd say exactly the opposite; they couldn't work together. The sums of their parts rarely equalled the whole. It was rumoured or maybe true, that Gabbiadini and Kitson hated each other. None of them were ever consistent enough I thought the side under Arthur that went up was amazing. The speed that they could counter with Gee, Davison NC and GM was breathtaking. GB SPORTS, therealhantsram, Premier ram and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 15 minutes ago, Bob The Badger said: I'd say exactly the opposite; they couldn't work together. The sums of their parts rarely equalled the whole. It was rumoured or maybe true, that Gabbiadini and Kitson hated each other. None of them were ever consistent enough I thought the side under Arthur that went up was amazing. The speed that they could counter with Gee, Davison NC and GM was breathtaking. It was Gee’s short shorts, he could how you say, really open his legs up with those hot pants on. Not like today, they act like sails and slow players down. Bring back short Shorts!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wistaston Ram Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 22 minutes ago, Bob The Badger said: I'd say exactly the opposite; they couldn't work together. The sums of their parts rarely equalled the whole. It was rumoured or maybe true, that Gabbiadini and Kitson hated each other. None of them were ever consistent enough I thought the side under Arthur that went up was amazing. The speed that they could counter with Gee, Davison NC and GM was breathtaking. I was at a QA session with Gabbiadini at Pride Park a couple of years ago and his relationship with Kitson came up. safe to say that the rumours were true. Bob The Badger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealhantsram Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 29 minutes ago, Bob The Badger said: I'd say exactly the opposite; they couldn't work together. The sums of their parts rarely equalled the whole. It was rumoured or maybe true, that Gabbiadini and Kitson hated each other. None of them were ever consistent enough I thought the side under Arthur that went up was amazing. The speed that they could counter with Gee, Davison NC and GM was breathtaking. Paul Kitson. Always flattered to deceive. After leaving Derby he spent eight years at West ham and Newcastle United clocking up less than a hundred league appearances in those eight years as these site in their reserves. What a waste of a talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrycav81 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 3 hours ago, Bob The Badger said: That wasn't the conversation. He was ok, but not much more. He was as likely to hit one over the Ossie End roof as into the net, and his control could be atrocious at times. His record of 50 goals in 188 games was hardly prolific, and any legendary status he has now (which is debatable) is more down to his attitude, work rate and clear fondness for Derby. H was the anti-Kitson who had a higher goal per-game rate and was more skilful, but was sulky and lazy. Gabbiadinis second touch was usually a tackle, that’s why he looked like he worked hard. Kitson was a technically a better player but always came across as a miserable sod Bob The Badger and therealhantsram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 5 minutes ago, Henrycav81 said: Gabbiadinis second touch was usually a tackle, that’s why he looked like he worked hard. Kitson was a technically a better player but always came across as a miserable sod He was a miserable sod Kathcairns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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