1977 Ram Raider Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 10 minutes ago, Chopper said: I dunno Ithink the site could be quite creditable based on a pre existing rumour that Charlton want 500k and it would be the most Derby thing ever to then offer 600k. Seriously though, if (and it's a giant, kipling sized if) we are in negotiations for him I'd imagine we'd stay below 500k and hope to hit that asking price with incentives, namely through promotion. We’re no longer owned by Mel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram59 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 It's probably a case of Charlton want 500k, but we can't pay or justify that amount in this year's figures. So, we offer about 300k this year plus another 300k after June providing we get promotion, which will come out of next season's higher revenue. Basically, we could be tempting Charlton with a possible higher figure than they're asking for, on the gamble that we get promotion. It'll help if they let us beat them in the two games that we've got with them.😉 Can you imagine the fuss if that was to happen though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 46 minutes ago, Chopper said: I dunno Ithink the site could be quite creditable based on a pre existing rumour that Charlton want 500k and it would be the most Derby thing ever to then offer 600k. Seriously though, if (and it's a giant, kipling sized if) we are in negotiations for him I'd imagine we'd stay below 500k and hope to hit that asking price with incentives, namely through promotion. You’ve explained the exact reason the account exists. Knows the pre-existing rumours, adds a light sprinkling of b******* on the top and sends it out. Then you think it’s credible. And because we will never know the fee the if and when it happens, they look like geniuses. Crewton and Andicis 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 31 minutes ago, Srg said: You’ve explained the exact reason the account exists. Knows the pre-existing rumours, adds a light sprinkling of b******* on the top and sends it out. Then you think it’s credible. And because we will never know the fee the if and when it happens, they look like geniuses. S8TY and Comrade 86 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 I’m deeply worried about our fans media literacy. Unfortunately, I could’ve written this to any of the threads in the transfer forum. Crewton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsdubs Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 (edited) Popular player L1 clubs are looking to sign? Add Derby County to the list to drive more engagement and clicks. No chance we spend more than probably 350k on a single player IMO. Edited January 18 by tomsdubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 25 minutes ago, tomsdubs said: Popular player L1 clubs are looking to sign? Add Derby County to the list to drive more engagement and clicks. No chance we spend more than probably 350k on a single player IMO. I think you’re right but add ons related to promotion will be in the mix. That said we are all speculating, it’s pure guess work and that includes the journalists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 29 minutes ago, tomsdubs said: Popular player L1 clubs are looking to sign? Add Derby County to the list to drive more engagement and clicks. No chance we spend more than probably 350k on a single player IMO. Andy Comyn type fees rather than Shaun Barker levels ? JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta, derbydaz22, Abu Derby and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papahet Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Are we actually skint or we just being mindful of how we spend after the MM fiasco? There's surely a difference, just struggle to see where the Knight money went (?) derbydaz22 and Ted McMinn Football Genius 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Agents fees, signing on bonuses etc for the summer transfers? There's more to a free transfer than just the wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTom92 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 9 minutes ago, Papahet said: Are we actually skint or we just being mindful of how we spend after the MM fiasco? There's surely a difference, just struggle to see where the Knight money went (?) Knight money went in to the running of the club. Its quite lame and boring and doesn't bode well for an exciting future but that's where we are at. Believe if we offloaded this month a proportion would be put in the kitty but we don't appear to want to sell this month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 9 minutes ago, Papahet said: Are we actually skint or we just being mindful of how we spend after the MM fiasco? There's surely a difference, just struggle to see where the Knight money went (?) We still have a set budget which we are sticking to. It also costs a lot to run a club our size. The Knight money will have gone towards reducing our losses. Roughly speaking, minimum costs (excluding players) won't be far off: Rates, utilities, insurance, police, etc.. - £5m Non-playing staff - £4m Stadium and training ground upkeep - £1.5m With wages (plus tax and NI) around the £12m mark, those are total costs of £22.5m I estimated our revenue for this season to be roughly £20m, plus the cash from Bielik and Knight means we'll be very close to breaking even, before we've spent anything on transfer fees. Carl Sagan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsdubs Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 It's worth remembering our owner isn't really that cash rich, just a succesful local business owner that wanted to save his club. I don't think he really wants to spend his personal wealth on a load of overpaid footballers even when the EFL controls are relinquished. The Scarlet Pimpernel, therealhantsram, bimmerman and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 1 hour ago, Ghost of Clough said: We still have a set budget which we are sticking to. It also costs a lot to run a club our size. The Knight money will have gone towards reducing our losses. Roughly speaking, minimum costs (excluding players) won't be far off: Rates, utilities, insurance, police, etc.. - £5m Non-playing staff - £4m Stadium and training ground upkeep - £1.5m With wages (plus tax and NI) around the £12m mark, those are total costs of £22.5m I estimated our revenue for this season to be roughly £20m, plus the cash from Bielik and Knight means we'll be very close to breaking even, before we've spent anything on transfer fees. Don’t think you’re far off with those numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U.M. Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 2 hours ago, TomTom92 said: Knight money went in to the running of the club. Its quite lame and boring and doesn't bode well for an exciting future but that's where we are at. Believe if we offloaded this month a proportion would be put in the kitty but we don't appear to want to sell this month. I thought the Knight money went on paying the Jozwiak balance. We settled the dispute with Poznan in August, around the time of Knights transfer. rammieib and TomTom92 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTom92 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 37 minutes ago, U.M. said: I thought the Knight money went on paying the Jozwiak balance. We settled the dispute with Poznan in August, around the time of Knights transfer. Great shout. Either way we've missed out on key funds in the summer. Hopefully there's no more skeletons in the closet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Confirmed original bid was 200k, then 250k rejected start of last week... https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-boss-maintains-no-issues-with-derby-target-blackett-taylor-or-skipper-dobson/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topram Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 4 minutes ago, DCFC1388 said: Confirmed original bid was 200k, then 250k rejected start of last week... https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-boss-maintains-no-issues-with-derby-target-blackett-taylor-or-skipper-dobson/ Thought we were trying to thrash out a deal this week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eoghan1884 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 3 minutes ago, Topram said: Thought we were trying to thrash out a deal this week More than likely we’ve already bid again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macintosh Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 1 hour ago, TomTom92 said: Great shout. Either way we've missed out on key funds in the summer. Hopefully there's no more skeletons in the closet. 1 hour ago, U.M. said: I thought the Knight money went on paying the Jozwiak balance. We settled the dispute with Poznan in August, around the time of Knights transfer. https://www.sport.pl/pilka/7,65039,30045467,swiat-zachwyca-sie-gestem-lecha-uratowali-moj-klub.html They waived the majority of the fee still owing. And it appears Arsenal came to a similar deal regarding Bielek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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