Athelwulf Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 As an Owls fan, one who used to watch Derby a bit too, I hope this gets settled pronto. Smudge hit 20 for Wednesday last season, and was instrumental in Rotherham's promotion the year before, but he's totally wrong for Roehl's style. The only way he plays is if everyone else is injured. Chansiri isn't only thick, he's also stubborn. Even if Derby increase what they're offering, it isn't going to make any difference to the money needed for the level of recruitment Wednesday need. It's posturing, as was the threat to withhold funds and the threat of an embargo when he tried to tap the fans up. Comrade 86, angieram, RamFan13 and 5 others 3 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 16 minutes ago, Athelwulf said: As an Owls fan, one who used to watch Derby a bit too, I hope this gets settled pronto. Smudge hit 20 for Wednesday last season, and was instrumental in Rotherham's promotion the year before, but he's totally wrong for Roehl's style. The only way he plays is if everyone else is injured. Chansiri isn't only thick, he's also stubborn. Even if Derby increase what they're offering, it isn't going to make any difference to the money needed for the level of recruitment Wednesday need. It's posturing, as was the threat to withhold funds and the threat of an embargo when he tried to tap the fans up. As a player I'd want to be playing. As a player who's had a reasonable career and is probably on a decent contract with a sizeable promotion bonus 8 months ago I'd probably take a wage from Derby who have gone as far as they can by the sound of it, and a bit less from Sheff Wednesday for 5 months to get the deal sorted. Thereby making up the difference in figures. With footballers it always seems very much all or nothing. Who knows, he might get another promotion bonus and and a staying up bonus all in one go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 9 hours ago, Athelwulf said: As an Owls fan, one who used to watch Derby a bit too, I hope this gets settled pronto. Smudge hit 20 for Wednesday last season, and was instrumental in Rotherham's promotion the year before, but he's totally wrong for Roehl's style. The only way he plays is if everyone else is injured. Chansiri isn't only thick, he's also stubborn. Even if Derby increase what they're offering, it isn't going to make any difference to the money needed for the level of recruitment Wednesday need. It's posturing, as was the threat to withhold funds and the threat of an embargo when he tried to tap the fans up. Thanks for your comments. I think some of your fans think we can simply increase our offer, but it's pretty clear that the EFL still have one foot on our throats, so that isn't going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbobram Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 11 hours ago, Athelwulf said: As an Owls fan, one who used to watch Derby a bit too, I hope this gets settled pronto. Smudge hit 20 for Wednesday last season, and was instrumental in Rotherham's promotion the year before, but he's totally wrong for Roehl's style. The only way he plays is if everyone else is injured. Chansiri isn't only thick, he's also stubborn. Even if Derby increase what they're offering, it isn't going to make any difference to the money needed for the level of recruitment Wednesday need. It's posturing, as was the threat to withhold funds and the threat of an embargo when he tried to tap the fans up. The problem with owners with ego's is, it very rarely ends well. We know first hand through a certain bald headed t*wt DerbyAleMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcfcsr92 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Its simple leave smith and target different attackers! Warne does it every window then we stuggle to find the type of player hes looking for! Then we will end up signing someone because he will panic! Shouldnt of le5 brown go until we got some in if collins gets injuried we are f***ed another bit of bad management CapeTownRams and Papahet 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 27 minutes ago, Dcfcsr92 said: Its simple leave smith and target different attackers! Warne does it every window then we stuggle to find the type of player hes looking for! Then we will end up signing someone because he will panic! Shouldnt of le5 brown go until we got some in if collins gets injuried we are f***ed another bit of bad management We will get some 18 year old with a worse goal scoring record than Brown in on loan from Tottenham on deadline day. hintonsboots, therealhantsram, Dcfcsr92 and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew3000 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 You could argue that with TJJ injured, we need 2 strikers now. I too am annoyed that we seem to have wasted time on Smith and perhaps missed out on Ladapo, but you can understand why he was worth trying for. Let's hope there's a game ready loan option who either adds more height, pace or creative x factor. Stressful but intriguing situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macintosh Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 It begs the question, knowing Warne's admiration of Ladapo, who surely would have been the first choice loan incoming of our management, how come Charlton got him, considering he was a second thought after Clarke-Harris had turned them down? Something does not add up with this recruiting team of ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 4 minutes ago, Macintosh said: It begs the question, knowing Warne's admiration of Ladapo, who surely would have been the first choice loan incoming of our management, how come Charlton got him, considering he was a second thought after Clarke-Harris had turned them down? Something does not add up with this recruiting team of ours. Why would a recruitment team be needed for Ladapo, Warne could just WhatsApp him couldn't he. therealhantsram and Dcfcsr92 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macintosh Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 6 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Why would a recruitment team be needed for Ladapo, Warne could just WhatsApp him couldn't he. Considering Collins persuaded two players to join us when holidaying with them, Waghorn fell in his lap, and Bradley Johnson suggested Ryan Nyambe, maybe no one lets Warne into any WhatsApp group? therealhantsram, RoyMac5 and Carl Sagan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireRam Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 26 minutes ago, Macintosh said: It begs the question, knowing Warne's admiration of Ladapo, who surely would have been the first choice loan incoming of our management, how come Charlton got him, considering he was a second thought after Clarke-Harris had turned them down? Something does not add up with this recruiting team of ours. Devil's advocate: If Ladapo was a backup choice for midtable Charlton, doesn't that imply he may not be good enough to improve our first XI? Just to add to this, he was never first choice for Ipswich last season either, though did very well off the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macintosh Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 (edited) 10 minutes ago, YorkshireRam said: Devil's advocate: If Ladapo was a backup choice for midtable Charlton, doesn't that imply he may not be good enough to improve our first XI? Just to add to this, he was never first choice for Ipswich last season either, though did very well off the bench. We shall very soon find out, especially considering three of the four striker choices are sitting on the treatment table and the next best off playing non-league. Ladapo must be absolute pants. We missed out on Jordan Rhodes and Freddie Ladapo, both Warne-type strikers, and Michael Smith is too expensive, if MackworthRammIsGod's prophecy comes true, then we might as well hand over the recruitment reigns to Peartree Intant's School and save a few bob. Edited January 25 by Macintosh hintonsboots 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 2 hours ago, Dcfcsr92 said: Its simple leave smith and target different attackers! Warne does it every window then we stuggle to find the type of player hes looking for! Then we will end up signing someone because he will panic! Shouldnt of le5 brown go until we got some in if collins gets injuried we are f***ed another bit of bad management Can’t Brown be recalled if necessary (e.g. an injury to Collins)? If that’s true and is your only argument then it’s not bad management as it allows Brown to get much needed first team games under his belt but be recalled, match fit (unless of course he picks up an injury). Rich84 and Caerphilly Ram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 28 day call back, so could get him back end of Feb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 2 hours ago, Andrew3000 said: You could argue Would that be the 1minute or 5minute argument 😁 Andrew3000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeTownRams Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 2 hours ago, YorkshireRam said: Devil's advocate: If Ladapo was a backup choice for midtable Charlton, doesn't that imply he may not be good enough to improve our first XI? Just to add to this, he was never first choice for Ipswich last season either, though did very well off the bench. Not when the first choice was Clarke-Harris ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S8TY Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 1 hour ago, Tamworthram said: Can’t Brown be recalled if necessary (e.g. an injury to Collins)? If that’s true and is your only argument then it’s not bad management as it allows Brown to get much needed first team games under his belt but be recalled, match fit (unless of course he picks up an injury). I’m not sure I’d call that good management either going into the last few days of window where we might have to get back an 18year old striker who rarely plays because we only have 1 fit striker how about our recruitment team explore other avenues …just in case we are down to 1 fit striker …eg like we are now im talking about players maybe on loan like other L1 and L2 clubs manage to do I’d say Taylor the lad who couldn’t finish against us for Lincoln and Hugill from United or players of similar ilk would be better then let Brown get much needed experience in conference As a management team we never seem to foresee any pitfalls in our supposed plan and from a fans pov appears like we are clutching at straws have a plan and a back up plan and a back up plan to that ….its called good management Smith is a no go so go and get someone else there are plenty of good players out there we just don’t see them …good job Nyambe was recommended by BJ it wasn’t our recruitment / scouting team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireRam Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 1 minute ago, CapeTownRams said: Not when the first choice was Clarke-Harris ! Collins has double the amount of goals JCH does this season, there's even an argument to say he doesn't improve the first XI? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S8TY Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 I have been at the Peterborough academy quite a few times when my son was playing against them and spoken many times with Peterborough scouts I can tell you now considering it’s a tin pot place and not great facilities at all they still manage to scout and churn out and find players and most go on to earn them money I don’t know what or how we scout players but i believe our facilities and stature would make us a very attractive proposition to a good young player They seem to be able to get players quickly from lower level to first team and it keeps them ticking along financially we are yet to see the fruits of labour from the bloke from Oxford but let’s hope he can walk the walk because it would help massively Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 3 hours ago, Macintosh said: It begs the question, knowing Warne's admiration of Ladapo, who surely would have been the first choice loan incoming of our management, how come Charlton got him, considering he was a second thought after Clarke-Harris had turned them down? Something does not add up with this recruiting team of ours. Maybe Ladapo knew the type of football Warne likes to play and maybe he didn’t want to be exposed to that again - who knows Archied 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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