Barney1991 Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Ambitious said: Perhaps not, but it's definitely a massive focus for most teams - according to what I can find online, 43.7% of all goals scored are from a cross. 90% of goals are scored from inside the area. However, the caveat to that is 1.6% of crosses end in a goal. Most Premier League teams are looking to put 20 crosses in a game, unless completely under the cosh. We are a major outlier (roughly 35 crosses a game). It's still one of the most effective ways of scoring in football. When you consider how Forest stayed up last season, incredibly deep defensively and speed on the counter. There isn't too much smart or intricate about that, but it's effective when done correctly. The goal against Arsenal at the weekend was a fantastic example - two fast players charging down the pitch and a ball into the box poked in. They're one of the teams that don't get many crosses into the box, though, as their starting position is incredibly deep. Only issue with that is at home as other teams will sit behind the ball altering our game plan which i can see us struggling with at home. The only time we had joy at Burton was when they were pushing for a equaliser and we hit them on the break. Warne and the team have to start finding ways to break teams down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazloW Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 7 hours ago, rammieib said: The Warne style won't be attractive to Prem managers sadly. We really need to reintroduce the 🙄 reaction! SKRam, SaffyRam, Kernow and 8 others 7 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Ambitious said: The alternative is a Joey Barton-led Bristol Rovers... ah yes exactly who I would my impressionable sons to spend time with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerphilly Ram Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Latest comments on transfer activity from Paul Warne, taken from this DET article; https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/derby-county-transfers-paul-warne-8676298 Warne says he is still actively looking for further additions and says that could take him right up until deadline day. "There isn't anything exciting to tell you," Warne told DerbyshireLive. "I am still trying to sign a central midfielder. "I'd like another attacking option that we are trying to do. It could be pizza and fish and chips on transfer deadline day night. "I know everyone thinks we have this pot of gold and everybody is going to come to Derby. It's not the case. I have a budget that is used up by the players we currently have. "Whatever I have got left, I have got to try to bring players in who are better than we currently have. It isn't easy. If it was, they would be here. "There are a lot of players who are free agents who will say 'yes I will come' but they've not had a pre-season, they've not played and even if I signed them, I just wouldn't waste the money. "It's pointless bringing somebody in for the sake of it. It's a waste of David's (Clowes) money really. I need people who are going to compete. "You keep looking at the Championship and Premier League squads and you'll look and see a player and think, well he's not played again, surely he wants to play a bit more. "They weren't there two weeks ago, but they are becoming more apparent. The hard thing is a lot of players want to stay in the Championship as long as they can and think if I can just hang in there, I can get in the team." angieram and SKRam 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topram Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, Caerphilly Ram said: Latest comments on transfer activity from Paul Warne, taken from this DET article; https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/derby-county-transfers-paul-warne-8676298 Warne says he is still actively looking for further additions and says that could take him right up until deadline day. "There isn't anything exciting to tell you," Warne told DerbyshireLive. "I am still trying to sign a central midfielder. "I'd like another attacking option that we are trying to do. It could be pizza and fish and chips on transfer deadline day night. "I know everyone thinks we have this pot of gold and everybody is going to come to Derby. It's not the case. I have a budget that is used up by the players we currently have. "Whatever I have got left, I have got to try to bring players in who are better than we currently have. It isn't easy. If it was, they would be here. "There are a lot of players who are free agents who will say 'yes I will come' but they've not had a pre-season, they've not played and even if I signed them, I just wouldn't waste the money. "It's pointless bringing somebody in for the sake of it. It's a waste of David's (Clowes) money really. I need people who are going to compete. "You keep looking at the Championship and Premier League squads and you'll look and see a player and think, well he's not played again, surely he wants to play a bit more. "They weren't there two weeks ago, but they are becoming more apparent. The hard thing is a lot of players want to stay in the Championship as long as they can and think if I can just hang in there, I can get in the team." Don’t think we will see much if anything before deadline day Ted McMinn Football Genius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 38 minutes ago, Caerphilly Ram said: Latest comments on transfer activity from Paul Warne, taken from this DET article; https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/derby-county-transfers-paul-warne-8676298 Warne says he is still actively looking for further additions and says that could take him right up until deadline day. "There isn't anything exciting to tell you," Warne told DerbyshireLive. "I am still trying to sign a central midfielder. "I'd like another attacking option that we are trying to do. It could be pizza and fish and chips on transfer deadline day night. "I know everyone thinks we have this pot of gold and everybody is going to come to Derby. It's not the case. I have a budget that is used up by the players we currently have. "Whatever I have got left, I have got to try to bring players in who are better than we currently have. It isn't easy. If it was, they would be here. "There are a lot of players who are free agents who will say 'yes I will come' but they've not had a pre-season, they've not played and even if I signed them, I just wouldn't waste the money. "It's pointless bringing somebody in for the sake of it. It's a waste of David's (Clowes) money really. I need people who are going to compete. "You keep looking at the Championship and Premier League squads and you'll look and see a player and think, well he's not played again, surely he wants to play a bit more. "They weren't there two weeks ago, but they are becoming more apparent. The hard thing is a lot of players want to stay in the Championship as long as they can and think if I can just hang in there, I can get in the team." Reading between the lines our budget has already been consumed on our existing squad and we aren't going to get any players in better than the ones we already have with the pittance we have left in the kitty. europia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry Daly Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: Reading between the lines our budget has already been consumed on our existing squad and we aren't going to get any players in better than the ones we already have with the pittance we have left in the kitty. Or unless we sell someone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Just now, Gerry Daly said: Or unless we sell someone Am not sure if that would help as didn't we already agree the amount of money we could spend with the EFL? Am not sure whether it's DC being tight with the purse strings, the EFL restrictions or a bit of both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerphilly Ram Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: Reading between the lines our budget has already been consumed on our existing squad and we aren't going to get any players in better than the ones we already have with the pittance we have left in the kitty. Could be. Or it could be Warne downplaying expectations. We’ve just got to wait and see I guess. His comment about free agents is interesting as there are definitely still some out there who would help with our lack of depth in midfield and/or defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram59 Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Barney1991 said: Only issue with that is at home as other teams will sit behind the ball altering our game plan which i can see us struggling with at home. The only time we had joy at Burton was when they were pushing for a equaliser and we hit them on the break. Warne and the team have to start finding ways to break teams down. If we'd put away any one of 4 early chances against Wigan, things could have been so different. In the first 15 minutes we broke them down 4 times giving Collins, Bradley and Fozzy great opportunities and a blistering shot from NML well saved. 22 minutes ago, Caerphilly Ram said: Could be. Or it could be Warne downplaying expectations. We’ve just got to wait and see I guess. His comment about free agents is interesting as there are definitely still some out there who would help with our lack of depth in midfield and/or defence. I think that Warne is keeping his cards close to his chest, he doesn't want other clubs and players' agents thinking that he has money to burn. FlyBritishMidland, Caerphilly Ram, Premier ram and 4 others 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTinMan Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Early days but even though I saw some positives on Saturday there's still not enough depth to this squad to get promoted. We're an injury away to a Bird or Hourihane in midfield or one of the strikers from being threadbare. And if that is the budget on the crowds we're getting I'd be very fearful of the future of the club to be brutally honest because the crowds won't grow in this division, the funds aren't enough to get promotion realistically and so we find ourselves in a bit of a predicament. Hopefully some of the financial nooses are legacy things from Mel's days which we'll get over one day rather than regular day-to-day expenses. therealhantsram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Tyler Durden said: Am not sure if that would help as didn't we already agree the amount of money we could spend with the EFL? Am not sure whether it's DC being tight with the purse strings, the EFL restrictions or a bit of both. Depends if you can swap out a fringe player and replace them (and their wages) with a potential first teamer. It's a tall order, but it's probably the only way we're going to get new faces in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Eagle's Barmy Army Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, TheTinMan said: Early days but even though I saw some positives on Saturday there's still not enough depth to this squad to get promoted. We're an injury away to a Bird or Hourihane in midfield or one of the strikers from being threadbare. And if that is the budget on the crowds we're getting I'd be very fearful of the future of the club to be brutally honest because the crowds won't grow in this division, the funds aren't enough to get promotion realistically and so we find ourselves in a bit of a predicament. Hopefully some of the financial nooses are legacy things from Mel's days which we'll get over one day rather than regular day-to-day expenses. We’ve still got Sibley and Barkhausen to come back in the team. We’re stronger than we were last season IMO. DiggerB, FlyBritishMidland, Caerphilly Ram and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 4 hours ago, Ramarena said: I'd say the development of Dobbin and Roberts last season won't have gone unnoticed by their clubs. Dobbin? What development? Roberts - absolutely - there is a reason I said midfield and attack but NOT defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted August 14, 2023 Author Share Posted August 14, 2023 3 hours ago, Caerphilly Ram said: Could be. Or it could be Warne downplaying expectations. We’ve just got to wait and see I guess. His comment about free agents is interesting as there are definitely still some out there who would help with our lack of depth in midfield and/or defence. This reinforces my view, that at this point he expected to be paying fees for players. He concluded all the frees expected to do with Washington. Now he is faced with signing frees who won't be fit for a month, paying small fees which would mean signing 2 players not 4 or loaning players that I think will be difficult with a) our style of play, b) Warne's selection policy as they would have to be very good as the loaning club will want playing time assurances and c) we may have to pay loan fees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 32 minutes ago, rammieib said: Dobbin? What development? Roberts - absolutely - there is a reason I said midfield and attack but NOT defence. He got game time and experience got a few crucial goals and assists. Im sure that’s nothing to some people, but for young players it’s very important. Jortat, FlyBritishMidland and Caerphilly Ram 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 3 hours ago, Tyler Durden said: Am not sure if that would help as didn't we already agree the amount of money we could spend with the EFL? Am not sure whether it's DC being tight with the purse strings, the EFL restrictions or a bit of both. Even without EFL restrictions I can only see the club operating within it's means. Considering the horrendous financial position that Mr Morris left the club in, it's totally understandable that the current owner isn't going to allow the club to spend more than it earns. Supporters will have to get used to that, and Warne presumably has bought into it. SILVERFOXTHERAMSFAN and Abu Derby 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 25 minutes ago, sage said: This reinforces my view, that at this point he expected to be paying fees for players. He concluded all the frees expected to do with Washington. Now he is faced with signing frees who won't be fit for a month, paying small fees which would mean signing 2 players not 4 or loaning players that I think will be difficult with a) our style of play, b) Warne's selection policy as they would have to be very good as the loaning club will want playing time assurances and c) we may have to pay loan fees Is your view then, that the budget warne believed he had has been reduced, or wasn't there in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram59 Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 42 minutes ago, rammieib said: Dobbin? What development? Roberts - absolutely - there is a reason I said midfield and attack but NOT defence. I felt that there was quite an improvement in Dobbin over the season, believing that he was on the brink of adding goals to his contribution towards the end of the season. A number of times he would cut in from the left and try and curl one inside the far post with a very deliberate shot, they never came off, but also they were never that far off target either. Magicman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 33 minutes ago, europia said: Even without EFL restrictions I can only see the club operating within it's means. Considering the horrendous financial position that Mr Morris left the club in, it's totally understandable that the current owner isn't going to allow the club to spend more than it earns. Supporters will have to get used to that, and Warne presumably has bought into it. How many L1 clubs do you think run at breakeven or better? Premier ram and Jayram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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