Carl Sagan Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 Had Sky Sports on in the background with the live Saturday roundup, and was surprised to hear the reporter say "a billiant save by Kelle Roos". Apparently playing for Aberdeen, third in the Scottish Premiership (a long way back) and on the fringes of European football. jono 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 19 minutes ago, Carl Sagan said: Had Sky Sports on in the background with the live Saturday roundup, and was surprised to hear the reporter say "a billiant save by Kelle Roos". Apparently playing for Aberdeen, third in the Scottish Premiership (a long way back) and on the fringes of European football. Yep he’s been their number one all season Rammy03 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWC1983 Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Carl Sagan said: Had Sky Sports on in the background with the live Saturday roundup, and was surprised to hear the reporter say "a billiant save by Kelle Roos". Apparently playing for Aberdeen, third in the Scottish Premiership (a long way back) and on the fringes of European football. Saved a pen towards the end to gain a crucial point on the push towards Europe. Carl Sagan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JfR Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 Far cry from the opinion some had of him here: angieram, Carl Sagan, Ramarena and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 26 minutes ago, JfR said: Far cry from the opinion some had of him here: He always has been a fantastic s*** stopper. When we first signed him, his distribution and catching from catches were two of his strengths too. He seemed to lose confidence in catching the ball after the Playoff Final, but improved a lot towards the end of his spell with us. He was my number 1 keeper and wouldn't have wasted time or budget on Hamer, Marshall or Allsop. Jubbs, rynny, angieram and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB SPORTS Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 22 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: He always has been a fantastic s*** stopper. When we first signed him, his distribution and catching from catches were two of his strengths too. He seemed to lose confidence in catching the ball after the Playoff Final, but improved a lot towards the end of his spell with us. He was my number 1 keeper and wouldn't have wasted time or budget on Hamer, Marshall or Allsop. Agree he had improved a lot from his early days, but on crosses Dracula is less frightened of them TomTom92 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladram Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 I think Shay Given coached the keepers to punch, as that is what he did as a shorter keeper. It wasn't natural to Roos so he lost all confidence and the ability to catch or punch it. Not helped by the crowd who added to the panic. Seen a couple of his games for Aberdeen and he seems much more confident. Carnero, Andrew3000, Ghost of Clough and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubbs Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 (edited) I always said Roos was a good keeper and was always abused for it. Our fans treated him awfully. Imagine booing your own keeper and ironically cheering every time he caught the ball, some of the most embarrassing stuff our fan base has done, what wonders that will do to a keepers confidence. Also I've just checked, statistically the best shot stopper in the Scottish Prem this season. Edited May 13, 2023 by Jubbs angieram, Adslegend, Gladram and 6 others 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteroseram Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 Is this his 1st full season as a number 1? Always remember him being 1st choice for half a season every season. Full season as settled number 1 in front of fans who have faith in him has improved him, who'd have thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 At fault for all 3 goals...luckily they were edited out 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTom92 Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 Decent shot stopper but was useless at crosses. Made a clanger in the play of final and needed a solid season the following year to erase those demons. Sadly this didn’t happen and the fans went in on him. Good for him for moving and improving. But don’t think we as fans need to be too self critical, he was a liability towards the end. Anyway, the same thing happened to Wildsmith being not rated at Weds and we’re the beneficiaries. It’s football. S8TY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 14 hours ago, TomTom92 said: Decent shot stopper but was useless at crosses. Made a clanger in the play of final and needed a solid season the following year to erase those demons. Sadly this didn’t happen and the fans went in on him. Good for him for moving and improving. But don’t think we as fans need to be too self critical, he was a liability towards the end. Anyway, the same thing happened to Wildsmith being not rated at Weds and we’re the beneficiaries. It’s football. "The fans" were on his back the first game of the following season. Ramarena and Jubbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenBr Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 On 13/05/2023 at 18:32, JfR said: Far cry from the opinion some had of him here: I like Roos and think he is a good keeper, but being the best keeper in the Scottish Leagues isn't exactly an accolade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 Glad to see Roos doing well - always thought he was a good, if somewhat erratic at times, keeper. The performance away at Bristol City that essentially got us into the play-offs was one that he should've got a lot more credit (for example) - I'm sure he made 11 saves in the end. angieram and Premier ram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 Roos always had the potential to be a good keeper and I am glad he's achieving that potential. He needed to leave us to progress, the fans we're on his back and being a confidence player that really didn't work for him. Shame for us, great for him! angieram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubbs Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 (edited) Preventing 10 goals is genuinely elite standard. No one in in top 5/6 leagues prevented more, closest was Alisson (who's one of, if not the best keeper in the world). Edited June 1, 2023 by Jubbs Carnero, angieram and Steve How Hard? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott129 Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 9 minutes ago, Jubbs said: Preventing 10 goals is genuinely elite standard. No one in in top 5/6 leagues prevented more, closest was Alisson (who's one of, if not the best keeper in the world). I really liked Roos. If he could claim crosses and command his area, he would have easily been Prem quality. So it doesn't surprise me at all to see him doing well in the SPL. Jubbs and therealhantsram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaLocks Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 52 minutes ago, Jubbs said: Preventing 10 goals is genuinely elite standard. No one in in top 5/6 leagues prevented more, closest was Alisson (who's one of, if not the best keeper in the world). What is a prevented goal? I know it sounds obvious but some (e.g. Joe Hart) have a negative number and I'm not sure quite how that can be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubbs Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 1 hour ago, BaaLocks said: What is a prevented goal? I know it sounds obvious but some (e.g. Joe Hart) have a negative number and I'm not sure quite how that can be? It's post shot expected goals - goals conceded. So expected goals gives the quality of a chance based on the position (mainly), but post shot takes into account things like the trajectory of the ball post shot, so a shot in the top corner will have a higher PSxG compared to a shot in the middle of the goal. A negative number will mean they've conceded more than they would expect a goalkeeper to save based on thousands of other saves from similar shots. BaaLocks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaLocks Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 4 hours ago, Jubbs said: It's post shot expected goals - goals conceded. So expected goals gives the quality of a chance based on the position (mainly), but post shot takes into account things like the trajectory of the ball post shot, so a shot in the top corner will have a higher PSxG compared to a shot in the middle of the goal. A negative number will mean they've conceded more than they would expect a goalkeeper to save based on thousands of other saves from similar shots. Thank you - sounds a little like the concept of Shots Earned in golf where you should be able to understand how many shots it would take you to get down from, for example, the bunker. Joe Hart doesn't come out of it well. Jubbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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