Simmo’s left foot Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 The problem is what can the fans do? Too many will continue to subscribe to sky (I dont) and to go to rearranged matches? Is it time to boycott a match as a matter of principle, and just put a big DCFC fans not here banner there with 4 fans holding each corner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmo’s left foot Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63226838 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Simmo’s left foot said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63226838 Its time to go for live footie at 3.00pm on a Saturday. We cant stop SKY moving matches at the moment, its in the contact, so time to go for it and pitch live football at the grounds versus tv coverage. There will never be anything like being at a game rather than sitting on yer sofa. Ask those who were at Leeds. Ask those who saw Bieliks late equaliser v Brum on the day of the march.....virtually every game last season when 3/4 of the ground singing "They docked us 21 points.....", Blackpool when we was already down, you cant replicate that. So bring it on I say! Mucker1884, David Graham Brown, Chellaston Ram and 4 others 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 7 hours ago, David said: @i-Ram Found you something to do I actually may be able to attend now. I unfortunately could not go on the Saturday as i was duty bound to go to a wedding of a friend. I am happy to do a dirty protest if I go. Just for the record I am a West Sussex Ram. A cut above the Hampshire variety. europia, David Graham Brown, Boycie and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 8 hours ago, David said: Yeah it’s a joke, all this football without fans is nothing, here they are moving a game where fans have to drive 3 hours+ back home at 10pm on a Friday night. 1am at best if you live in Derby and can get back in the car without a piss stop. Public transport is not an option unless you stay over the night, adding to the expense of attending the game with hotels, food, drinks. I’ll be honest, it’s a game I would never be able to get to with the new allocation rules so works out great for me, but that’s not what football is about, providing entertainment for those at home on their sofas should always be secondary. If the governing bodies want empty stadiums, continue this way, ask the players, the staff what they would prefer. Do the clubs not have to agree to these fixture changes, I’m sure they do so it’s incredibly poor by both clubs, if not, I apologise. Either way Sky Sports, you deserve the middle finger for this one. ? Was you going before they moved it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 The main benefit of L1 football (so I thought) was football matches at 3.00pm on a Saturday. Sky has ruined English football, top clubs are owned by faceless obscenely wealthy foreigners, and most players are self serving mercenaries. Dordogne-Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC27 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 7 hours ago, David said: The questions are: 1) If Portsmouth v Derby was on ITV, Saturday 3pm, would those same fans attend had the game not been on TV? 2) If Portsmouth v Derby is moved to Friday 8pm for Sky Sports, would those that would have attended had it been Saturday 3pm, still go on this new date? For me, 2 has the potential to have a bigger impact on fans. I say this as despite what I said earlier, this is great for me being moved for TV, truth is, I would be able to watch at home on my 55” TV regardless of when the game is on through commonly known methods. Difference now is really I can go to the pub and watch. TV or not, football has it’s hardcore fans that will attend home/away regardless of being on TV, I truly believe that the odd Derby game being shown on ITV will not prevent those from going. However if Sky Sports continue to make games inaccessible for fans by moving them outside of public transport times, you’re going to lose fans who simply cannot afford to soak up the additional costs. They are so out of touch it’s unbelievable, we have the government talking about electricity blackouts this winter, household bills, food, fuel soaring, here Sky are basically saying look, you have to drive or spend more money now to attend this game, just so we can show it to thousands of neutral football fans that have no real interest in the outcome. Funny thing is these net zero adverts they run, we care about environment, yet here they are forcing thousands of football fans away from using public transport. I don’t know how many fans one carriage can hold, but it’s a lot more than 1 family car and with no Roadrider this season the alternatives are what exactly…. If they are able to broadcast the 3pm ko’s, they will soon be broadcasting them all. It would effect every home game. There is a hard core but to get more than 20k you need to attract fans and I know plenty of casual fans that would rather watch it on TV than buy a ticket. This happens a handful times a season. It’s an issue, but I get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will the Ram Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, DCFC27 said: If I’m honest, compared to what was discussed yesterday with tv rights this is probably the better of two evils. Allowing 3pm KOs to be broadcasted will kill attendances. Especially with the cost of living going up. More people will stay at home and watch on Amazon etc. We might be annoyed now when the games get moved every so often but PP will be below 20k regularly if they go ahead with the short sited plans. Sure slightly more money in from tv rights but for a club like derby we’ll be out of pocket. It’s about time the blackout rule was scrapped imo. Not everyone can go or afford to go to every away match or even home games. Why should they not be able to watch their team on TV? I currently go to most away games but I rely on others to take me so sometimes I cannot go. Knowing that there’s a back-up of Rams TV etc. which means I can see the match is great. I believe that Britain is the only country where the rule is applied. You may see it as short-sighted but I find it ridiculous that people abroad can watch our matches but I can’t because I live in the UK. it’s revenue that clubs are missing out on. Perhaps it would also lower ticket costs in time. Edited October 13, 2022 by Will the Ram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, DCFC27 said: If they are able to broadcast the 3pm ko’s, they will soon be broadcasting them all. It would effect every home game. There is a hard core but to get more than 20k you need to attract fans and I know plenty of casual fans that would rather watch it on TV than buy a ticket. This happens a handful times a season. It’s an issue, but I get it. I've been able to watch every league game since RamsTV started streaming them. There hasn't been a single occasion when I felt "meh, can't be bothered going to the game, I'll just watch it on TV instead." Need to attract fans? I'd imagine being able to see a team on TV may tempt more casuals to gain an interest in a specific team than if they have to spend £50 to watch live. Anag Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 22 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: I've been able to watch every league game since RamsTV started streaming them. There hasn't been a single occasion when I felt "meh, can't be bothered going to the game, I'll just watch it on TV instead." Need to attract fans? I'd imagine being able to see a team on TV may tempt more casuals to gain an interest in a specific team than if they have to spend £50 to watch live. Making love to a beautiful woman v watching porn. SKRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Boycie said: Was you going before they moved it? Have you read the post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 13 minutes ago, David said: Have you read the post? Does he read any post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 24 minutes ago, rynny said: Does he read any post? Can he read? rynny and Day 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 8 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said: Can he read? Are you implying he s thick as a post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambervalley Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 From a purely selfish point of view: I wasn’t going and I have Sky so I can now watch the game. ? But I agree, no consideration is given to the fans in terms of their financial position and the travel logistics. It’s abysmal. I’d rather hoped that being in the 3rd division we’d left this all behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VulcanRam Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 The amount of pious hang-wringing and bleating on here, you'd think a game had never been moved before. All those who go on about Sky being "scum" etc, never watched a televised game? Never tuned in or gone to the pub for a big Premier League game? Ever? If the answer is yes then I accuse you of lying. And if the answer is no then you're a bit of a hypocrite. I subscribe to Sky Sports and enjoy watching the football and cricket. I like having games on on a Sunday when I'm doing stuff around the house. Sky has done more to make sport accessible to the masses than anyone. I'm afraid the odd fixture move is collateral damage. Plus the club get £10k they wouldn't have done otherwise. A tiny percentage of supporters compared to the overall fan base will be inconvenienced. Many would have watched it on Rams TV anyway, and now even more Derby fans have access. In all, it's one of those things but there's benefit as well as disadvantage, so I thought it worth balancing the debate. SKRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 1 hour ago, VulcanRam said: The amount of pious hang-wringing and bleating on here, you'd think a game had never been moved before. All those who go on about Sky being "scum" etc, never watched a televised game? Never tuned in or gone to the pub for a big Premier League game? Ever? If the answer is yes then I accuse you of lying. And if the answer is no then you're a bit of a hypocrite. I subscribe to Sky Sports and enjoy watching the football and cricket. I like having games on on a Sunday when I'm doing stuff around the house. Sky has done more to make sport accessible to the masses than anyone. I'm afraid the odd fixture move is collateral damage. Plus the club get £10k they wouldn't have done otherwise. A tiny percentage of supporters compared to the overall fan base will be inconvenienced. Many would have watched it on Rams TV anyway, and now even more Derby fans have access. In all, it's one of those things but there's benefit as well as disadvantage, so I thought it worth balancing the debate. Huh? Made it "accessible to the masses" by making most of the sports they used to watch for free on terrestrial accessible only to those with the spare wodge to pay for it? That's the exact opposite of what they've done. It's not the people's game anymore. Sky's money may have brought allot of benefits with regard to facilities, 24/7 availability of sports for the addicts, tasteless exhibitions of wealth and entitlement by its star players, but it's completely screwed the 'football pyramid' and for many people turned it into something they don't want to bother with anymore. So if people want to have a moan about their planned trips to Portsmouth and/or Ipswich being rendered impossible, and complain about train tickets and/or hotel bookings that they may not be able to get refunds on, they've got every right to, particularly here on this forum. JoetheRam, JJs dms, angieram and 4 others 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier ram Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 managing to get to Ipswich but sadly now wont be able to make the Pompey game uttoxram75 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 18 hours ago, David said: Have you read the post? 18 hours ago, rynny said: Does he read any post? 18 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said: Can he read? 10 hours ago, Archied said: Are you implying he s thick as a post Look, I don’t come on here to be insulted, I can talk to the missus if I wanted that! angieram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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