angieram Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 19 hours ago, Zag zig said: Yeah and Conway is right, he’s becoming a different player to the one we knew. Except he was doing this week in, week out for our academy for a long while. He came into the first team and because he wasn't immediately doing it for us there, a section of the fan base were straight on his back. Morgan is a lovely, quiet guy - he did a lot of voluntary work with DCCT for example. He was hurt by the boo boys and it took him a while to recover his confidence. I hope he's a lesson learned for some of our brain dead fans, but I doubt it. Adslegend, Slaapwekkend P, CBRammette and 6 others 4 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, angieram said: Except he was doing this week in, week out for our academy for a long while. He came into the first team and because he wasn't immediately doing it for us there, a section of the fan base were straight on his back. Morgan is a lovely, quiet guy - he did a lot of voluntary work with DCCT for example. He was hurt by the boo boys and it took him a while to recover his confidence. I hope he's a lesson learned for some of our brain dead fans, but I doubt it. large portion of the fan base saw his goal tally and his height and assumed centre forward, which, of course, he never was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 9 minutes ago, angieram said: Except he was doing this week in, week out for our academy for a long while. He came into the first team and because he wasn't immediately doing it for us there, a section of the fan base were straight on his back. Morgan is a lovely, quiet guy - he did a lot of voluntary work with DCCT for example. He was hurt by the boo boys and it took him a while to recover his confidence. I hope he's a lesson learned for some of our brain dead fans, but I doubt it. I always said it was 1 season too soon for Whittaker as it even took him time to settle at U18 and U23 level. It also didn't help that what Rooney demanded from wingers was different to what Whittaker can do. He seems really settled down at Plymouth and enjoying it there. It's disappointing we couldn't retain him in an environment which allowed him to develop at his own pace - similar can be said of one or two other player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 18 minutes ago, angieram said: I hope he's a lesson learned for some of our brain dead fans, but I doubt it. No chance. We still have plenty who don't think Max Bird is any good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 50 minutes ago, jameso said: No chance. We still have plenty who don't think Max Bird is any good. And Sibley, and Cashin. Yet we're calling for Weston to be rushed through on the basis of one good game. Yep, throw him to the slaughter! CBRammette, rammieib, Zag zig and 3 others 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 36 minutes ago, angieram said: And Sibley, and Cashin. Yet we're calling for Weston to be rushed through on the basis of one good game. Yep, throw him to the slaughter! It would be a shame though not to put Weston in solely for the danger he won't be given much patience. Likewise Fapetu. Expecting our youngsters to do what the senior pros are not doing well enough is a bit of a leap, but would definitely like to see more of these two. (Not to mention Thompson when we get him back!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, jameso said: It would be a shame though not to put Weston in solely for the danger he won't be given much patience. Likewise Fapetu. Expecting our youngsters to do what the senior pros are not doing well enough is a bit of a leap, but would definitely like to see more of these two. (Not to mention Thompson when we get him back!) Me, too, especially Thomson because he is more experienced. I think he'll get his chance when he's fit again. Could be really important for us next season with Hourihane and Smith gone. Adslegend, Premier ram and Indyram 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadlad Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 On 26/11/2023 at 16:58, therealhantsram said: Some players develop. Some players don't. Predicting which ones go on to great things is near impossible, even for professionals in the game. Chadlad Posted January 30, 2021 Surprised with this and feel that it’s too early to make this judgement. Give him another season to develop and who knows what level he could reach. Ability wise he has a lot in his locker, I just hope we have a substantial deal, fee appearances and sell on fees. As others have said, he need to bulk up a little and have a little more aggression. A potential 20 goal a season championship striker IMO! Difficult but not impossible! angieram and LeedsCityRam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BathRam72 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Scoring goals for fun in the championship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 3 hours ago, BathRam72 said: Scoring goals for fun in the championship I bet he enjoyed this one against Rooney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BathRam72 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 1 hour ago, CBRammette said: I bet he enjoyed this one against Rooney I bet he did indeed CBRammette 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 24 Championship appearances this season, now up to 12 goals & 4 assists. Magicman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 He’s doing very well - pleased for him unless he would be playing against us 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry Daly Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 Its so sad how we chucked him away. I always said we would come to regret it. I think he will end up getting a big money move to the prem. Good luck to him anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 15 hours ago, Gerry Daly said: Its so sad how we chucked him away. I always said we would come to regret it. I think he will end up getting a big money move to the prem. Good luck to him anyway We got a reasonable fee for him at the time and there's no guarantee he'd have thrived here if he'd stayed, given the state the club was in. He wasn't exactly tearing up any trees at Swansea either, hence they sold him on for relatively little profit. But he found a club (and manager) in Plymouth that obviously suited him and it shows. It'll be interesting to see where his career goes from here. Carnero, ram59, therealhantsram and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 Scoring for fun, good on him. Was always going to be a decent player once he strengthened up. He has loads of natural ability and it's nice to see him prospering. He had a rough old finish to his time at Derby, especially for a young'un and I can't help but think it could all have been handled so much better. Difficult times, but regrettable all the same. angieram, Crewton and LeedsCityRam 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Crewton said: We got a reasonable fee for him at the time and there's no guarantee he'd have thrived here if he'd stayed, given the state the club was in. He wasn't exactly tearing up any trees at Swansea either, hence they sold him on for relatively little profit. But he found a club (and manager) in Plymouth that obviously suited him and it shows. It'll be interesting to see where his career goes from here. Minutes per goal contribution at each club he's been at: Derby = 384 Lincoln = 248 Swansea = 198 Plymouth = 127 He had a couple of issues here. The first was having the wrong manager, who didn't understand what sort of player he was or have the patience to develop him. The second was he needed time to develop physically and mentally to Championship football. It took him a year to settle at U18 and then U23 level, so it was nonsensical to expect him to hit the ground running in the first team. angieram and Carnero 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Ghost of Clough said: Minutes per goal contribution at each club he's been at: Derby = 384 Lincoln = 248 Swansea = 198 Plymouth = 127 He had a couple of issues here. The first was having the wrong manager, who didn't understand what sort of player he was or have the patience to develop him. The second was he needed time to develop physically and mentally to Championship football. It took him a year to settle at U18 and then U23 level, so it was nonsensical to expect him to hit the ground running in the first team. It was probably also unrealistic for any player to expect to be allowed to develop at their own pace at a time the club needed instant results and funds, given also that other young players were grabbing their chances. Rooney undoubtedly treated him harshly but there's no better answer to such treatment than proving your biggest critic was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oomarkwright Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 He's worth 12-15 mill now. Look at what we could have won. I found it ironic he equalised against the bloke who sold him at Derby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 1 hour ago, oomarkwright said: He's worth 12-15 mill now. Look at what we could have won. I found it ironic he equalised against the bloke who sold him at Derby. There's no guarantee that he would have developed the way he has if he'd have stayed at Derby. therealhantsram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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