Crewton Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 1 hour ago, oomarkwright said: He's worth 12-15 mill now. Look at what we could have won. I found it ironic he equalised against the bloke who sold him at Derby. I doubt anyone is going to pay that for him after half a good season in the championship, but doubtless that's what Plymouth value him at because 'why not'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oomarkwright Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 42 minutes ago, Carnero said: There's no guarantee that he would have developed the way he has if he'd have stayed at Derby. Ok. Good job we got £750k for him then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oomarkwright Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 30 minutes ago, Crewton said: I doubt anyone is going to pay that for him after half a good season in the championship, but doubtless that's what Plymouth value him at because 'why not'? We'll see. Alex Scott went for what? £20m? Ivan Toney 12m? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 Not to go all xG on you but think any sensible team will need a bit more evidence the type of goals he scores are sustainable before they drop any serious money on him. It is pretty depressing though that you have the likes of him, Ebosele and Brown making serious waves and from reading articles or seeing what went on at the time, all were not rated at certain points by academy and/or first team staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 2 hours ago, nottingram said: Not to go all xG on you but think any sensible team will need a bit more evidence the type of goals he scores are sustainable before they drop any serious money on him. It is pretty depressing though that you have the likes of him, Ebosele and Brown making serious waves and from reading articles or seeing what went on at the time, all were not rated at certain points by academy and/or first team staff. To go all xG and everything... he's scored twice as many goals as his xG suggests he should have, and 50% more assists. Youd have to watch the goals themslves to determine if he was lucky or he's just a good finsher [hint: he was always a very good finisher at youth level]. He also has the 4th highest attacking contribution in the league (shots and key passes per 90). angieram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 3 hours ago, oomarkwright said: Ok. Good job we got £750k for him then. Maybe we needed £750k more than we needed him at the time. If we were talking about a time when we had no financial or legal worries, then selling him would have made less sense, but if Rooney was told he had to get money in in order to take 5 players on loan, it's easier to understand. I'm sure fans would have accepted no signings and relegation if only Morgan could have been retained for his future potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 (edited) I was just going to set this to start at his goal but thought it was a rather enjoyable match all-round and he's involved quite a lot. Will probably be disappointed he only scored one tbf. Not sure there are many players out there who can strike a ball so cleanly but we saw that here - it's the power he gets behind his shots I don't think we were witness to. Edited January 2 by May Contain Nuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Some players need to be at the right club for them and Plymouth seem to be the place for him - just a shame we don’t receive any massive monies when he eventually gets sold for big money Zag zig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 (edited) This account very active today but not sure re accuracy 😂😂 Edited January 2 by CBRammette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 (edited) Reckon someone would need to double that before Plymouth even bothered to respond. Edited January 2 by May Contain Nuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 16 minutes ago, CBRammette said: This account very active today but not sure re accuracy 😂😂 If you strapped a machine gun to a dog with the trigger gaffer taped down and let it run around in a field with some targets set up, it would be more accurate than that twitter account is. Premier ram, CBRammette and Mostyn6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EranioIsGod Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Off to Brentford for £10 million from what I've seen on Twitter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Ram Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Find it unbelievably sickening thinking about all of the quality academy players of ours around the country I think you could make a decent enough Championship starting XI out of them all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 48 minutes ago, Leicester Ram said: Find it unbelievably sickening thinking about all of the quality academy players of ours around the country I think you could make a decent enough Championship starting XI out of them all Based only on Transfermarkt values, the best XI would be: Ravas Bogle Cashin Buchanan ABrown Whittaker Knight Hughes Ebosele Riis Jacobsen Delap Still leaving the following as subs/reserve: TGrant, Lowe, Bird, Elsnik, Sibley, Kellyman, Ebiowei, Gordon, Plange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Ram Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 2 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said: Based only on Transfermarkt values, the best XI would be: Ravas Bogle Cashin Buchanan ABrown Whittaker Knight Hughes Ebosele Riis Jacobsen Delap Still leaving the following as subs/reserve: TGrant, Lowe, Bird, Elsnik, Sibley, Kellyman, Ebiowei, Gordon, Plange More likely Ravas Bogle Cash Buchanan Lowe Bird Knight Hughes Whittaker Delap Ebiowei Admittedly you’d invest in a keeper and a CB, with that I think they’d finish somewhere in mid-table Would also add our very own Thommo to the list and Dylan Williams as our fifth left back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roboto Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 3 hours ago, Leicester Ram said: More likely Ravas Bogle Cash Buchanan Lowe Bird Knight Hughes Whittaker Delap Ebiowei Admittedly you’d invest in a keeper and a CB, with that I think they’d finish somewhere in mid-table Would also add our very own Thommo to the list and Dylan Williams as our fifth left back Why would you take Ebosele out? He's a first team regular in Serie A now. Mainly playing as right mid/wing back in a 3-5-2. I'd think he's be one of the most valuable on current market value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Ram Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 51 minutes ago, roboto said: Why would you take Ebosele out? He's a first team regular in Serie A now. Mainly playing as right mid/wing back in a 3-5-2. I'd think he's be one of the most valuable on current market value. f****** hell Roboto, I’m not actually managing them 😂 Taribo, Comrade 86 and LazloW 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 On 29/12/2023 at 11:41, Ghost of Clough said: To go all xG and everything... he's scored twice as many goals as his xG suggests he should have, and 50% more assists. Youd have to watch the goals themslves to determine if he was lucky or he's just a good finsher [hint: he was always a very good finisher at youth level]. He also has the 4th highest attacking contribution in the league (shots and key passes per 90). Do you know by how much a world-class finisher would typically outperform their xG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 32 minutes ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said: Do you know by how much a world-class finisher would typically outperform their xG? Typically, as you go up the leagues and have better finishers, you also have better keepers so you don't notice much difference. However, someone like Kane scores roughly 50% more than his xG. Bellingham is currnetly 80% higher, whilst Leon Bailey is 100%. Meanwhile, at the opposite end of the scale is Darwin Nunez who is getting close to half his xG. It's still early in the season to truly judge players vs xG though. Even a full season can often be a bit unfair. DarkFruitsRam7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 On 08/01/2024 at 19:33, Ghost of Clough said: Typically, as you go up the leagues and have better finishers, you also have better keepers so you don't notice much difference. However, someone like Kane scores roughly 50% more than his xG. Bellingham is currnetly 80% higher, whilst Leon Bailey is 100%. Meanwhile, at the opposite end of the scale is Darwin Nunez who is getting close to half his xG. It's still early in the season to truly judge players vs xG though. Even a full season can often be a bit unfair. I guess this also demonstrates that xG doesn't account for factors such as composure so only tells half of the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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