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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61893883

"Just five first-team players - Krystian Bielik, Max Bird, Jason Knight, Louie Sibley and Jack Stretton - have contracts for next season, while two other players have options on existing deals with the club. And even those that are present might not be around for long.

If Derby survive it will be in the form of a new company since that is the only way of avoiding paying full liability to non-football creditors.

Under employment law, when the business is sold to the new company the position will be governed by legislation known as the 'Transfer of Undertakings' (Protection of Employment) (TUPE).

Ordinarily under TUPE, employees at the date of the transfer automatically transfer to the new company. But they also have the right to be given information about the transfer ahead of time and a right to object to becoming an employee, which would trigger their contract being terminated at the point where the sale eventually takes place.

This legislation was used by a number of Glasgow Rangers players to quit the Scottish side when they were liquidated in 2012.

Whilst there remains confidence amongst the administrators that Derby will not be liquidated, which in itself would bring the players' contracts to an end, it is understood some of the remaining players are unhappy at the position they have found themselves in and are taking legal advice over their rights."

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1 hour ago, Ghost of Clough said:

My understanding is the TUPE would ensure there are no changes to a contract upon transfer of ownership (no wage reductionor termination). 

The contract issues with Buchanan and Byrne will be some other rule (EFL, FIFA...)

Sadly they can object once they are given advance notice of transfer and terminate.

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If players don’t want to be here if and when we get taken over then fine leave but it seems dreadfully wrong that we can’t get an appropriate transfer fee 

worth remembering when Keogh was sacked under employment law he wouldn’t have got that much for unfair dismissal where as under a strange EFL rule he was allowed a £2 million payment so I would suggest that employment law and EFL rules do not run side by side just like accountancy rules and laws 

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Derby’s team for next season:

Sign goalkeeper

Ebolese

Cashin

Sign centre half

Buchanan / Williams

Bird / Thompson

Knight

Ebiowei

Gordon

Plange / Sibley

Delap

 

Look at all our academy products …. Oh wait ducking no we can’t. Screwed over, ripped off and exploited by the ‘big clubs’.

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Yes, Curtis first and foremost. I'd be happy if we could retain Ravel, Stearman, Fozzy, Cashin and any out of contract academy players. Get reasonable fees for any contracted players who want away and get signing capable L1 players and promising L2/National league players. 

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People keep reciting the "only 7 players line", so here's the list again...

First team squad
Goalkeepers: Roberts
Defenders: Byrne, Buchanan, Solomon, Bardell, WGP
Midfielders: Bielik, Bird, Knight, Sibley, Clarke, Ibrahim
Wingers: -
Forwards: Stretton, Cybulski
Offers for Foulkes, Cashin, LThompson, Watson, Aghatise, CDixon (also Festy and Ebiowei for compensation reasons)
Duncan excluded for obvious reasons.

2nd year Scholars
Goalkeepers: Evans
Defenders: Brailsford, Aideyan, Christie, Rutt, Moloney, Moore
Midfielders: DRobinson, Sebagabo, Fapetu
Wingers: Richards, Kelly, RND
Forwards: ZDixon

 

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1 hour ago, Ghost of Clough said:

People keep reciting the "only 7 players line", so here's the list again...

First team squad
Goalkeepers: Roberts
Defenders: Byrne, Buchanan, Solomon, Bardell, WGP
Midfielders: Bielik, Bird, Knight, Sibley, Clarke, Ibrahim
Wingers: -
Forwards: Stretton, Cybulski
Offers for Foulkes, Cashin, LThompson, Watson, Aghatise, CDixon (also Festy and Ebiowei for compensation reasons)
Duncan excluded for obvious reasons.

2nd year Scholars
Goalkeepers: Evans
Defenders: Brailsford, Aideyan, Christie, Rutt, Moloney, Moore
Midfielders: DRobinson, Sebagabo, Fapetu
Wingers: Richards, Kelly, RND
Forwards: ZDixon

 

Just to clarify Ghosty…..are you saying we have more than 7 players ?

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1 hour ago, Ravabeerbelly said:

In fairness to the “only 7 players” brigade there are only 7 maybe 8 in that list that are proven ready to play league 1 right now.

That squad, as it stands, gets relegated from league 1.

Even in the Championship, I'd have 9 or 10 of them in my 23 man squad if including those with offers.

You are right about the squad as it stands, but we have a month to get deals sorted, including the likes of Davies, Kazim, etc...

32 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said:

Just to clarify Ghosty…..are you saying we have more than 7 players ?

Yes ?

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