Gone Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, Curtains said: Up to Quantuma now then. Well that’s us ducked then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Turk Thrust said: It’s no good pointing all this out to our Kev. He just doesn’t seem to grasp the basics of data protection law, or NDAs. Several posters have told him but he just keeps banging on about it. I give up. ? The impact of the condition is quite clear. It requires q to modify their NDAs. It’s a very radical condition for the EFL to impose because - as you point out - there is a danger a bidder might refuse to proceed on that basis. (But why would they?) EFl have seen q at close range and the EFl view clearly is that our salvation is more likely if EFL are involved ( Ie their view is that q is incompetent) I don’t need to explain why q might find the condition unacceptable And before you respond telling me I’m a Buffoon, just think about it please, a bit more deeply than you have to date bwt I fully respect the view that q is doing the right thing by ignoring EFL. But the proof of that will be in the pudding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBX1985 Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, StarterForTen said: No, no, no - that's not how it's done. Please send those funds to the USA and then back to a European Clearing Bank, then on to lawyer's client account, then they'll be ready. Have these people never seen Ozarks? Bloody basics! You forget to add that they need to ensure there are two UK Bank Holidays, have it sent to Spain where everyday is a bank holiday etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alram Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 ashley has always been my first choice and even more so in recent weeks. he is exactly wqhat we need from an owner. come on Q get your finger out your bum. Derby4Me, deanoakaram4life, r_wilcockson and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 Time for Q to step up and finalise a deal. jimtastic56, r_wilcockson and Derby4Me 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwood P Dowd Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, TexasRam said: Well that’s us ducked then I am sure Q will want see the back of this Administration, they can take their money and scuttle off into the sunset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, alram said: ashley has always been my first choice and even more so in recent weeks. he is exactly wqhat we need from an owner. come on Q get your finger out your bum. I think with sueing Q I dont think he will get it. At least appley done once before under nigel clough got debt down next to nrothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 Just now, Elwood P Dowd said: I am sure Q will want see the back of this Administration, they can take their money and scuttle off into the sunset. Hope so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 23 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: "Ashley's group are set to inform Derby's administrators, Quantuma, that they are ready to proceed with a deal to rival former chairman Andrew Appleby and save the club from liquidation. Telegraph Sport has seen correspondence that shows Ashley's lawyers, RPC, are holding £50m in preparation to complete a takeover of the stricken League One club. The deal is understood to include the club and its assets, plus the stadium which is still owned by former chairman Mel Morris. Ashley's proposal will not include any charges for the rent of Pride Park, or take any money out of the club, including charges of interest, for the next 10 years. Ashley is said to be "incredibly serious" about his takeover bid yet fears time is running out to thrash out an agreement with Quantuma, who have been in situ since September, and "just wants a deal to be done"." Or as well "Short-term funding from a local businessman is understood to be close, to support the club for the next month, but Ashley and Appleby are now raising the stakes in their bids to secure a takeover." so....he hasn't made a bid yet RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambalin Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 1 minute ago, B4ev6is said: I think with sueing Q I dont think he will get it. At least appley done once before under nigel clough got debt down next to nrothing. He has done this before then offers to drop the claim if he gets sold the buisness RadioactiveWaste and r_wilcockson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 1 minute ago, sage said: so....he hasn't made a bid yet He doesn't want to, he just wants Appleby's bid to fail so he can say "15 million quid the lot take it or leave it." Kathcairns, Carnero, alexxxxx and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBX1985 Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Rambalin said: He has done this before then offers to drop the claim if he gets sold the buisness Yes, oldest trick in the book. Kathcairns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, sage said: so....he hasn't made a bid yet I think he has mate I think what happens is put a bid of 50m on bit of paper with break down I guess. i-Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said: The impact of the condition is quite clear. It requires q to modify their NDAs. It’s a very radical condition for the EFL to impose because - as you point out - there is a danger a bidder might refuse to proceed on that basis. (But why would they?) EFl have seen q at close range and the EFl view clearly is that our salvation is more likely if EFL are involved ( Ie their view is that q is incompetent) I don’t need to explain why q might find the condition unacceptable And before you respond telling me I’m a Buffoon, just think about it please, a bit more deeply than you have to date bwt I fully respect the view that q is doing the right thing by ignoring EFL. But the proof of that will be in the pudding You have a very skewed view of things kevin. For a start it isnt just NDAs.. EFL cannot expect to see all correspondnce that Q has with external parties without the other party agreeing to it. And any change to NDAs need both parties to agree that change. Q has daily contact with Trevor Birch. And judging by Alan Nixons tweets, Trevor Birch has daily contact with Alan Nixon. If I was bidding for Derby I wouldn't want such a leaky sieve having anything to do with me unless the deal is ready to be rubber stamped by EFL. Caerphilly Ram, Dordogne-Ram, duncanjwitham and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwood P Dowd Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, Rambalin said: He has done this before then offers to drop the claim if he gets sold the buisness He has but he still can only win by providing the best deal for the creditors, law suit or no law suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 54 minutes ago, B4ev6is said: How is not the same team change names that is all the difference is. no, not at all. AS far as I know, Wimbledon didn't go into administration, didn't write off debt, didn't owe anyone money, wasn't on the verge of going out of business. Quite simply, Winkleman realised there were too many clubs in London and the fan catchment area put a ceiling on their potential attendances, so found a new town (soon to be a City) without a football club and decided to move the club. There was talk of moving them to Dublin at one stage. The sitiuation couldn't be more unrelated to Derby's situation! Boycie and FlyBritishMidland 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Ram Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 So it looks like we will end up with A+A, or end up in it. Jackal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram1988 Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 23 minutes ago, TexasRam said: Well that’s us ducked then I don't think many of us have faith in Quantuma at all to do the obvious and liaise with both Appleby and Ashley to try and get their interest over the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said: no, not at all. AS far as I know, Wimbledon didn't go into administration, didn't write off debt, didn't owe anyone money, wasn't on the verge of going out of business. Quite simply, Winkleman realised there were too many clubs in London and the fan catchment area put a ceiling on their potential attendances, so found a new town (soon to be a City) without a football club and decided to move the club. There was talk of moving them to Dublin at one stage. The sitiuation couldn't be more unrelated to Derby's situation! I wonder if he regrets that now considering how well Palace have done. The pull of London too will always give those clubs an advantage in the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted June 22, 2022 Author Share Posted June 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said: no, not at all. AS far as I know, Wimbledon didn't go into administration, didn't write off debt, didn't owe anyone money, wasn't on the verge of going out of business. Quite simply, Winkleman realised there were too many clubs in London and the fan catchment area put a ceiling on their potential attendances, so found a new town (soon to be a City) without a football club and decided to move the club. There was talk of moving them to Dublin at one stage. The sitiuation couldn't be more unrelated to Derby's situation! Yeah but…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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