Kernow Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 9 minutes ago, seths-cap said: Really don’t want to see MA take us over. If the alternative is liquidation, or playing in Stoke or Leicester, then I really would like to see him take over. GenBr, Ramarena, RoyMac5 and 5 others 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derby8 Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 1 minute ago, IslandExile said: So... The Administrators (bless 'em) said they had secured funding to see the season out. That finished yesterday. Kirchner has said the deal needed to be concluded by 7 May (yesterday) so that he could start writing the cheques. With the "impasse" in place and no solution around the corner, there's every chance CK will pull out. So..... How is the club currently funded? Indeed, is it currently funded? Rooney said this 24-48 hours is critical. It's it fatal? Are we now facing liquidation. When does Kirchner return to the States? The "third party" won't be able to purchase the ground before he goes. So I guess that's the end of his bid. That leaves this supposed late bid from Ashley. But why would he offer more than CK if neither think the club is worth the debt? He wouldn't but he could offer Mel more and the creditors less, which means the 15 point deduction. This nightmare is about to build into a crescendo. We could prob survive a 15 point deduction if it came to it. Better than going out of business. Derby4Me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 14 minutes ago, seths-cap said: Really don’t want to see MA take us over. I'll take almost anyone at this stage Ramarena, Derby4Me, Tamworthram and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BondJovi Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, derby8 said: We could prob survive a 15 point deduction if it came to it. Better than going out of business. Could we? Who will sign on for that? If we had this team already tied down on contracts, maybe...but I sense a long long road ahead if we start -15 derby8, r_wilcockson and Kathcairns 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, derby8 said: We could prob survive a 15 point deduction if it came to it. Better than going out of business. Agreed. And we could survive without Rooney and all the promising youngsters. But most of us would prefer not to have to do that. r_wilcockson, Kathcairns, derby8 and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seths-cap Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Kernow said: If the alternative is liquidation, or playing in Stoke or Leicester, then I really would like to see him take over. I get that and maybe it’s me but it’s like saying, you can die or you can live with a carrot up your chuffer for the rest of your life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavesaRam Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 23 hours ago, Jase116 said: I’ve always tried to get around my head what Mel is doing,I understand he wants to recoup as much as possible that he lost running the club, but I’m at the point now of fgs let DCFC move on with CK in charge, don’t finish of a great football club, hopefully this gets sorted in the next few days, so we can prepare for next season and hopefully a more positive future ??? Spelling, Mr Jase, young man. "Ruining" is the correct spelling. See teacher after school. Fla Ram, GenBr, Turk Thrust and 2 others 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 1 minute ago, IslandExile said: Agreed. And we could survive without Rooney and all the promising youngsters. But most of us would prefer not to have to do that. We are definitely in a beggars / choosers situation here.. A club to support is all we ask. derby8, IslandExile, Derby4Me and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 Just now, AndyinLiverpool said: We are definitely in a beggars / choosers situation here.. A club to support is all we ask. I agree. The club survivng is ultimately the only thing that really matters. It's just so god damn frustrating - we could have a fresh, innovative new owner, a young manager with great potential that players - young and old - are desperate to play for, and a squad of talented young players. But..... well you know..... Miggins, RammingStone66, Rammeister and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 6 minutes ago, seths-cap said: I get that and maybe it’s me but it’s like saying, you can die or you can live with a carrot up your chuffer for the rest of your life. Jean-Paul Sartre would be proud of your reasoning LeedsCityRam, Miggins, jono and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scout's dad Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 8 minutes ago, seths-cap said: I get that and maybe it’s me but it’s like saying, you can die or you can live with a carrot up your chuffer for the rest of your life. Death by may mau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seths-cap Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: Jean-Paul Sartre would be proud of your reasoning After a quick google search, I think I want to say thank you ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckoBeast Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 Surely starting on -15 in LG 1 is better than liquidation Derby4Me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanny Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Kernow said: If the alternative is liquidation, or playing in Stoke or Leicester, then I really would like to see him take over. From what I saw, Mel will only write off his directors loans (125Million+£), IF he gets his asking price for the ground. If not, he will push his claims against the club to get a percentage back from those funds. Means he is stopping any ground share option Of course this is not confirmed- just folks talking online ?♂️ Edited May 8, 2022 by Hanny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 26 minutes ago, derby8 said: Newsnow Birmingham City has BC takeover rumours and at least one fan site, proboards BC, mentions Ashley. Fair dooos, but in the end they are guessing just like us. What someone thinks on a fan forum is a possible scenario isn’t really a source. Hey, I’m not having a go, but let’s face it no one knows sweet fanny adams. There isn’t a quote from MA’s accountant or PA who’s let something slip. Or some big wig from Brum who’s winked in a funny way, or a leak from the EFL. .. none of that. It’s hopeful gossip, pure and simple derby8 and Derby4Me 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, Hanny said: From what I saw, Mel will only write off his directors loans (125Million+£), IF he gets his asking price for the ground. If not, he will push his claims against the club to get a percentage back from those funds. Means he is stopping any ground share option Of course this is not confirmed- just folks talking online ?♂️ I know, but as Kirchner says, we're at an impasse. CK won't buy the Club if Morris is still involved, so he won't lease it. Morris won't sell the stadium for less than what is owed to MSD. MM's loans means he'd have to authorise any groundshare option to exit admin. Something's got to budge, as right now there is no feasible way where CK can buy the Club from Morris. The alternative then shifts to somebody else taking over, or the Club dying. Derby4Me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topram Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 ck and Tom Lawrence out in Derby last night clubbing ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rich3478 Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 How are people still being picky over who buys us? Could not care less at this point, if not someone soon we won’t even have a team to support! you’d think Mike Ashley was a nazi the way people go on! would love it to be kirchner tonight, but really will take anyone at this point! I don’t want to go to stoke or Leicester either, but i will if that’s all that we have. Derby4Me, LazloW, Kernow and 4 others 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 I assume that because MM is a creditor, he has approval rights over the creditors agreement. So he can effectively use the stadium leverage to effectively generate a "minimum amount" for himself greater than the rest of the unsecured creditors. Very wily. That, ladies and gentlemen, is a "businessman" in action. Only focussed on the self. Ashley has done it to pensioners in companies he takes over. It's all just business... angieram, RadioactiveWaste and Kathcairns 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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