r_wilcockson Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Just now, Unlucky Alf said: There getting there, But, We aint dead yet, Now lets see what the EFL and Boro are really after, If both Boro and the EFL turn this down it'll show the rest of the "football family" what their game really is. Rick Parry has already accepted the proposal. Chester40 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwood P Dowd Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, i-Ram said: Mmmh. The letter may have some positive effect, but I can’t see Mel having his ultimate duel fantasy with Gibson in Court. High Noon at the High Court. The letters we have seen from both parties only confirm to me that the club is caught in the middle of a fight between two petty dick swingers rather than two fearsome gun slingers. Weren’t the issues always really about egos ?♂️ i-Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Well as I see it Mel has stood up. if MBC don’t take his offer then they will be exposed for the opportunists they are. Ramarena and Hector was the best 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Eagle's Barmy Army Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 27 minutes ago, Mucker1884 said: I'm no expert... but having just read that in full... I just wee'd a little! BEST. OPEN. LETTER. EVER! ? Welcome back, you big, beautiful, bald, badass, dark-choc Bounty loving b45t4rd you! ? Well said me owd mucker andyburton72 and Mucker1884 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Half fan Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Well written Mel, who seemingly has three objectives about which we can only guess, of course. The first is to expose authoritatively and in detail what he sees as the incompetence of the EFL in recent years, about which many Forum members have written and commentators complained. The context for the current dispute is too easily overlooked by outsiders. He has brought it to everyone's attention. His second objective is to flush out the motives of MFC, WW and the EFL. If between them, they find ways to reject his offer - as some suspect is likely - they will bring the wrath of MPs etc down on themselves. Andrew Bridgen's rapid and positive response to Mel's offer is a breath of fresh air which indicates the tornado which will blow against these three parties if they stick to their pea-shooters. HIs third objective will be (I hope, for his sake and DCFC's) to free the logjam which will remain if the EFL dismisses his offer. If he then reassures any potential bidders for DCFC that they can ignore any cost of litigation against DCFC, Q can then rapidly name a PB and finalise arrangements with all other creditors. If Mel had gone straight to his third objective by making this offer now - as some have suggested - he would have missed the opportunity to achieve his second objective. We all make mistakes, and Mel has made some which are very expensive for himself and DCFC. But his intentions cannot be questioned. They are in marked contrast to those we suspect of the three parties, and I hope much of the venom against him is now withdrawn. More importantly, I hope that if he indemnifies the potential bidders, Q will now move quickly because they no longer have any rationale to keep schtum, leave us in the dark and allow the continued and damaging exit of our playing staff. We sure do live in interesting times! Indyram, Bigfella, jono and 9 others 9 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 minute ago, r_wilcockson said: Rick Parry has already accepted the proposal. I thought he was going to show his colleagues so not accepted yet, But can Boro put a spanner in the works by saying...Nope! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Eagle's Barmy Army Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, r_wilcockson said: Rick Parry has already accepted the proposal. Has he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Sheriff Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Can they do this? The claim is against Ltd company which Mel is no longer part of? Not trying to throw any spanners and I hope they can but need someone with a bit more business law intelligence to educate me. Red Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Just now, Unlucky Alf said: I thought he was going to show his colleagues so not accepted yet, But can Boro put a spanner in the works by saying...Nope! They can, but if the EFL want them to do it and Boro say no then we might see the EFL stance shift away from supporting Boro's position? They could simply say that Gibson had an out and didnt take it so do one. r_wilcockson, Hector was the best and Ram-Alf 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glyn1957 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Caerphilly Ram said: Fair play to Morris, he has caused this mess which is well documented, regardless of his intentions. However he is finally calling the bluff of the chancers involved, saying “come on, let’s focus on your issues with me and let the club be”. I think I just found a teeny tiny spark of respect somewhere in the void… We need to try and get in touch with the chancer from the usa and call him out see if he is game or not ,because he talks like he knows whats what but does he know English law and its peculiarities (small usa cos that`s what he is ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozza Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 23 minutes ago, JfR said: I have no idea as to whether it is actually legally viable for MB and WW to take action against Mel instead of the club, but it does seem the most ideal route for all parties. If it is legally shown that Mel cannot volunteer to take responsibility, I would seriously hope that he would instead commit to underwriting any legal costs and potential award if the claims continued against Derby, taking that financial responsibility out of the hands of the club and future owner(s). I would assume there must be same way in which that could be done. My thoughts exactly, covering costs in the unlikely event we lose.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Ok I've read it now. A couple of interesting points, but basically 3 pages of self justification and an offer that probably won't be taken up. I did say the MFC "open letter" last week had a lot of not relevant points, so does this. Interestingly Wycombe have just said we owe them money but not claimed it by way of proceedings... I'll have to go through and think about it more critically later. I do think However that this move from Morris does achieve a lot in terms of narrative, positioning and reputation, if Boro and Wycombe reject this, no matter how practical or justified the reason the wider world will see their continuing action in a different light. r_wilcockson, Wsm-ram, cosmic and 11 others 2 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramos Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bald Eagle's Barmy Army said: Has he? There’s an email online but don’t quite think it counts ahah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 (edited) I don’t see how the Wycombe “claim” now holds up at all. Boro, I get, if the basis is that they made their grievance known, in writing in Jan ‘21, but Wycombe have seemingly and literally come out of nowhere… Edited February 4, 2022 by StaffsRam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawhillram Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Half fan said: Well written Mel, who seemingly has three objectives about which we can only guess, of course. The first is to expose authoritatively and in detail what he sees as the incompetence of the EFL in recent years, about which many Forum members have written and commentators complained. The context for the current dispute is too easily overlooked by outsiders. He has brought it to everyone's attention. His second objective is to flush out the motives of MFC, WW and the EFL. If between them, they find ways to reject his offer - as some suspect is likely - they will bring the wrath of MPs etc down on themselves. Andrew Bridgen's rapid and positive response to Mel's offer is a breath of fresh air which indicates the tornado which will blow against these three parties if they stick to their pea-shooters. HIs third objective will be (I hope, for his sake and DCFC's) to free the logjam which will remain if the EFL dismisses his offer. If he then reassures any potential bidders for DCFC that they can ignore any cost of litigation against DCFC, Q can then rapidly name a PB and finalise arrangements with all other creditors. If Mel had gone straight to his third objective by making this offer now - as some have suggested - he would have missed the opportunity to achieve his second objective. We all make mistakes, and Mel has made some which are very expensive for himself and DCFC. But his intentions cannot be questioned. They are in marked contrast to those we suspect of the three parties, and I hope much of the venom against him is now withdrawn. More importantly, I hope that if he indemnifies the potential bidders, Q will now move quickly because they no longer have any rationale to keep schtum, leave us in the dark and allow the continued and damaging exit of our playing staff. We sure do live in interesting times! I wonder who has got the movie rights to this? mel played by Arnie Gibson played by ? Couhig played by Gollum Parry played by ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 HEY MEL, YER BIG STUD! TAKE ME TO COURT, OR LOSE ME FOREVER! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaffyRam Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 So EFL went back on what they’d agreed with MPs. Who’d have thought that was possible ? From Amanda Solloway on Twitter StaffsRam, GenBr and RoyMac5 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 28 minutes ago, Leicester Ram said: This has always been an open and shut case, we just needed someone to lay it all out for everyone to see. I thank Mel for the experience I had reading that, it was incredibly cathartic to see Boro/Wycombe/EFL “destroyed by facts and logic”, seeing as they’ve had more statements than dumps recently. However, I do wish he’d just come out with a statement saying he’d take the claims on for DCFC rather than using it as an opportunity to get digs in on his arch nemeses, like we’re part of the season finale of the Mel Show. He’s clearly trying to hit some home run that will restore his reputation, which isn’t happening. He should have offered to do that months ago, at the very latest when we were slapped with the latest transfer embargo and Jags was off. We all know it’s an easy win case, the only possible excuse is his health. It was nice to remember what it was like to have an owner fighting your corner and he’s proving a point; if the EFL don’t take him up on this, the heat on them from the public might finally outweigh the heat from Gibson. Mel coming out with a seething anti-EFL, anti-Gibson statement and the Derby fans lapping it up? It’s like we’re back in the good old days. Skin em Ted 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawhillram Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 11 minutes ago, r_wilcockson said: Rick Parry has already accepted the proposal. And never done a u turn before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozza Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 15 minutes ago, Eddie said: Christ - you have the same birthday as the Memsahib. Does that mean that I've got to bring you breakfast in bed as well? (Croissants, bacon and the best sauteed mushrooms you've ever tasted, all topped with gruyere cheese). No sausages?? papa_lazarou 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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