1967RAMS Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: - 9 This side stays up -21 it's 100-1 Know who I blame . Say no more really. Mel Morris I assume Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 Are the bookies giving odds on staying up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yani P Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, Boycie said: Are the bookies giving odds on staying up? You might find some but usually they just give relegation odds..we are 1/7 jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 1 hour ago, 1967RAMS said: Mel Morris I assume Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted November 28, 2021 Author Share Posted November 28, 2021 21 hours ago, 1967RAMS said: Mel Morris I assume Or he blames efl and rightly so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1967RAMS Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Just now, B4ev6is said: Or he blames efl and rightly so. Why? Did we go into admission? Yes. Did we break FFP rules? Yes. We have reaped what Mel has sown. You can keep up your blinkered and blatantly incorrect view that it’s all Gibson’s and the EFL’s fault but you are clearly not understand the facts Rambervalley, I know nothing, jimtastic56 and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean (hick) Saunders Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Is it just me who partly got a bit bored with Champ and would find a season in L1 a bit exciting? Would not want to be stuck there like Sunderland but if the “script” of good fighting season in L1 ending in promotion at first attempt was guaranteed followed by fighting for top 6 (in Champ) the season after I would be more excited than a season of slow recovery in champ next year followed by top 6 the following (same end point as L1 pathway). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Dean (hick) Saunders said: Is it just me who partly got a bit bored with Champ and would find a season in L1 a bit exciting? Would not want to be stuck there like Sunderland but if the “script” of good fighting season in L1 ending in promotion at first attempt was guaranteed followed by fighting for top 6 (in Champ) the season after I would be more excited than a season of slow recovery in champ next year followed by top 6 the following (same end point as L1 pathway). No guarantees though that's the problem. We all know a rebuild is necessary but it might take years in League one. I don't see many positives in that, much rather be in the championship. Gritstone Tup and jimtastic56 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 4 hours ago, Rammy03 said: No guarantees though that's the problem. We all know a rebuild is necessary but it might take years in League one. I don't see many positives in that, much rather be in the championship. Certainly not too many positives from relegation..... although I suspect playing at 3.00pm on a Saturday will be welcomed by many. Also playing L1 games during the corrupt world cup in Qatar ? jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingsy1884 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 (edited) 19 hours ago, Dean (hick) Saunders said: Is it just me who partly got a bit bored with Champ and would find a season in L1 a bit exciting? Would not want to be stuck there like Sunderland but if the “script” of good fighting season in L1 ending in promotion at first attempt was guaranteed followed by fighting for top 6 (in Champ) the season after I would be more excited than a season of slow recovery in champ next year followed by top 6 the following (same end point as L1 pathway). Be careful what you wish for. I agree it would be quite fun to watch us bulldoze through a season in L1 ending up 1st with 100+ points like Newcastle and West ham did in the Championship over recent years. But with L1 seems like it is impossible to do that. As for one reason or another the big clubs which fall down to L1 are usually there due to really bad form, gross mismanagement or horrendous financial predicaments. Of which we tick a good number of boxes. I can't remember a big team going down and romping back up again 1st time of asking. Did Wolves do it once? Then again I have rarely paid any attention to L1 unless I have an acca on ?. Edited November 29, 2021 by kingsy1884 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldben Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 It's obvious to me that you don't buy a club for millions in derbys condition without intending to rebuild the team. Derby will need a new scouting team. It will need to bring in strikers who can score a lot of goals. It will need top assist players in the midfield The current defence is probably the oldest in the Championship, that doesn't inspire me with confidence for league one. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripleyram88 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 28 minutes ago, kingsy1884 said: Be careful what you wish for. I agree it would be quite fun to watch us bulldoze through a season in L1 ending up 1st with 100+ points like Newcastle and West ham did in the Championship over recent years. But with L1 seems like it is impossible to do that. As for one reason or another the big clubs which fall down to L1 are usually there due to really bad form, gross mismanagement or horrendous financial predicaments. Of which we tick a good number of boxes. I can't remember a big team going down and romping back up again 1st time of asking. Did Wolves do it once? Then again I have rarely paid any attention to L1 unless I have an acca on ?. I think if we do go down, we are going to go down playing well, and having a fantastic home record. It makes me feel slightly optimistic about a season in League One, because instead of teams who normally go down after a season of being beaten almost every week, we would be going down after a season of playing well, and fighting against injustice. I think the morale around the club will be much better than if we went down last season, without any points deduction. With the like of Williams, Thompson, Ebosele already showing they can cut it with the prem players at the top of the league, I think we will do well in league one. How lucky that we stayed up though, otherwise this thread would be discussing about preparing for life in League 2 angieram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheresOnlyWanChope Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 31 minutes ago, Oldben said: It's obvious to me that you don't buy a club for millions in derbys condition without intending to rebuild the team. Derby will need a new scouting team. It will need to bring in strikers who can score a lot of goals. It will need top assist players in the midfield The current defence is probably the oldest in the Championship, that doesn't inspire me with confidence for league one. Agree with this however not worried about age of defenders. They’re coping very well in championship. Bet they could get an extra year at a lower level. Dean (hick) Saunders 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingsy1884 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 (edited) 43 minutes ago, ripleyram88 said: I think if we do go down, we are going to go down playing well, and having a fantastic home record. It makes me feel slightly optimistic about a season in League One, because instead of teams who normally go down after a season of being beaten almost every week, we would be going down after a season of playing well, and fighting against injustice. I think the morale around the club will be much better than if we went down last season, without any points deduction. With the like of Williams, Thompson, Ebosele already showing they can cut it with the prem players at the top of the league, I think we will do well in league one. How lucky that we stayed up though, otherwise this thread would be discussing about preparing for life in League 2 Agreed the prospect of L2 would have been a whole other story. We could have been looking at a very real chance of going out of existence. I think we could be the exception to the rule as we would effectively be a mid table championship team being bumped to L1 on technicalities rather than overall performance. Not sure the gap is all that big though. The team has the makings of a v good L1 team add in some experienced pros, top performers in L1/2 and a decent set of loan players we could be in for a great season. Edited November 29, 2021 by kingsy1884 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brammie Steve Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 On 27/11/2021 at 17:38, Boycie said: Will Blackpool have a bad run? They’ll lose out by a golden mile! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black ('n' White) Sheep Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, ripleyram88 said: I think if we do go down, we are going to go down playing well, and having a fantastic home record. It makes me feel slightly optimistic about a season in League One, because instead of teams who normally go down after a season of being beaten almost every week, we would be going down after a season of playing well, and fighting against injustice. I think the morale around the club will be much better than if we went down last season, without any points deduction. With the like of Williams, Thompson, Ebosele already showing they can cut it with the prem players at the top of the league, I think we will do well in league one. How lucky that we stayed up though, otherwise this thread would be discussing about preparing for life in League 2 Agreed. We owe Marlon Pack one ? I'm fairly optimistic about a season (or two... let's be realistic) in L1. If Hull, Rotherham, Wycombe etc. can go down and be pushing for automatic promotion the season after then I don't see why we shouldn't be able to. We just have to go into it with the right attitude (e.g. not turning up and expecting to roll everyone over week in, week out)... It's going to be a battle and we have to recruit well to add to the good group of young players we have. Although, saying that, there's still 27 games left and we're not dead yet! ? Edited November 29, 2021 by Black ('n' White) Sheep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Oh dear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Chins up, we only need to win 15 of our remaining 26 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 (edited) All of the Viagra in the world couldn't keep us up or even lift my mood duck this Edited November 29, 2021 by Coconut's Beard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Coconut's Beard said: All of the Viagra in the world couldn't keep us up Who gives a duck what you reckon while there are still points to keep us up! Comrade 86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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