Foreveram Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 19 minutes ago, Simmo’s left foot said: In other breaking news Captain Kirk has not invited me to fly in space with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealhantsram Posted October 12, 2021 Author Share Posted October 12, 2021 29 minutes ago, taggy180 said: Several. Mmm. So at least 3 onto the next stage. That's a positive in my book. Comrade 86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 17 minutes ago, therealhantsram said: Several. Mmm. So at least 3 onto the next stage. That's a positive in my book. Is there a deadline for applications? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 7 hours ago, mwram1973 said: Yeah because like most fans they think owners should be blowing billions on players They were not expecting billions to be spent on players. They were just wanting some form of progress or ambition. Newcastle have been fighting relegation every season and Ashley rarely bought more than 1 player each year, sometimes none at all. He was happy to just remain where they were. May Contain Nuts and DCFC Kicks 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Mike Ashley’s MO is to come in at the last minute, gazumping all other buyers. If he has any plans to buy DCFC , it will be later in the process. I know nuffin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwram1973 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Chris_Martin said: They were not expecting billions to be spent on players. They were just wanting some form of progress or ambition. Newcastle have been fighting relegation every season and Ashley rarely bought more than 1 player each year, sometimes none at all. He was happy to just remain where they were. I was talking about owners in general not just 1, my bad? Chris_Martin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 3 hours ago, hintonsboots said: Mike Ashley’s MO is to come in at the last minute, gazumping all other buyers. If he has any plans to buy DCFC , it will be later in the process. That's true, but I have a feeling he isn't really interested in DCFC. Ashley's main objective at NUFC was always to run a fairly tight ship, and sell on for a profit. It's taken a lot longer than he envisaged. Derby County would be an even longer project and we don't even have recent Premier League status. Potential buyers will be aware that Mr Morris really 'pushed the envelope' to get DCFC in the top flight, all to no avail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro_RAM Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 5 hours ago, Chris_Martin said: They were not expecting billions to be spent on players. They were just wanting some form of progress or ambition. Newcastle have been fighting relegation every season and Ashley rarely bought more than 1 player each year, sometimes none at all. He was happy to just remain where they were. In the Premier League? Yeah, I would be too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich84 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 1 hour ago, europia said: That's true, but I have a feeling he isn't really interested in DCFC. Ashley's main objective at NUFC was always to run a fairly tight ship, and sell on for a profit. It's taken a lot longer than he envisaged. Derby County would be an even longer project and we don't even have recent Premier League status. Potential buyers will be aware that Mr Morris really 'pushed the envelope' to get DCFC in the top flight, all to no avail. Arguably it should be relatively quick to get DCFC's value to increase for anyone to make a profit, even if you allow for relegation and 2-3 years to get back up, a couple of years back in the Championship after that and I'd say we would already be worth more than now, sanction free and on a level playing field, yes some player investment would be required but keep the academy intact and I wouldn't expect us to be in the doldrums too differently to either of our previous 2 dalliances outside the top 2 divisions. Get near the top end of the table/flirt with the prospect of promotion and it changes the landscape yet again. I certainly wouldn't expect it to take >14yrs, but i also doubt Ashley is ready to dive straight back into football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Retro_RAM said: In the Premier League? Yeah, I would be too. where's the ambition though? DCFC Kicks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 (edited) Given, the structure of English football today, the height of my medium term hopes for our club is to establish ourselves as a PL club a la the majority of the Jim Smith-Lionel Pickering years. The minimum hope is that we can return to being secure in the Championship, but hopefully with expectations of challenging for promotion most years. In the middle of this, becoming a yo-yo club in the shorter term would be exciting. To deliver this, I wish for an owner with a proven track record of experience in sustaining a club within my expectations. The owner would have sufficient capital to undertake the task and a realisation of the absolute necessity of operating within the constraints of profit and sustainability, so that we never in his or her stewardship find ourselves enveloped by the current cloud of worries that hangs over us. He or she would not be prepared to recklessly gamble on our future. Of course, Mike Ashley fits the bill perfectly. Our fanbase does not have the unreal expectations that he faced at Newcastle., where most of the fans have called for his departure for years. If he took over and delivered to us within the scope of my expectations, he would be loved at Derby, rather than loathed. He would learn that a fanbase can be appreciative of an owner. I see him as tailor-made to take us over. I just hope he's interested. So for me, I see it is a no-brainer. I would welcome Mike Ashley to Pride Park with open arms. Edited October 13, 2021 by Guest grammar and spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro_RAM Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 11 hours ago, Chris_Martin said: where's the ambition though? Ambition is measured on a club by club basis, Man Utds ambition is to win the Premier League, Norwich's ambition is to stay in the Premier League. Before the administration our ambitions were always to be like Burnley, Wolves, Crystal Palace, Southampton a stable (for the most part) mid-table Premier League club. It's nice to dream in football but you have to be grounded and realistic as well, the teams I listed above and Newcastle are also in this bracket mostly get this, mid-table and if Europe (Europa) is close than that can be considered an excellent season but it seems Newcastle fans ambitions are more in line with the Man Utd, Chelsea etc and that's unrealistic. LeedsCityRam and Tamworthram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreveram Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 56 minutes ago, Retro_RAM said: Ambition is measured on a club by club basis, Man Utds ambition is to win the Premier League, Norwich's ambition is to stay in the Premier League. Before the administration our ambitions were always to be like Burnley, Wolves, Crystal Palace, Southampton a stable (for the most part) mid-table Premier League club. It's nice to dream in football but you have to be grounded and realistic as well, the teams I listed above and Newcastle are also in this bracket mostly get this, mid-table and if Europe (Europa) is close than that can be considered an excellent season but it seems Newcastle fans ambitions are more in line with the Man Utd, Chelsea etc and that's unrealistic. It doesn’t seem so long ago since Charlton fans wanted Curbishley out because it was time for them to “ move to the next level “ . LeedsCityRam, Retro_RAM and Crewton 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 5 hours ago, Retro_RAM said: Ambition is measured on a club by club basis, Man Utds ambition is to win the Premier League, Norwich's ambition is to stay in the Premier League. Norwich's ambition is to stay in the league your right. But if they had more or less been a premier league club for the last 20 years like Newcastle, they would probably start to change their ambition and aim a little higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 5 hours ago, Retro_RAM said: it seems Newcastle fans ambitions are more in line with the Man Utd, Chelsea etc and that's unrealistic. i don't think they were, they just wanted to have a club that aimed a little higher than just surviving relegation every season. DCFC Kicks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r_wilcockson Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Comrade 86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, r_wilcockson said: Don't bring Sam Rush in . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSlate Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 9 minutes ago, PistoldPete said: Don't bring Sam Rush in . Why? Sam Rush was undoubtedly the catalyst for our recent successes (if you can call them that). Also found not guilty of ridiculous accusations, etc. What's your beef? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, TheSlate said: Why? Sam Rush was undoubtedly the catalyst for our recent successes (if you can call them that). Also found not guilty of ridiculous accusations, etc. What's your beef? He wasn't found anything either way. He and the club reached a settlement, the details of which (as far as I'm aware) have never been disclosed. He never even specifically denied that he did the things he was sacked for, just that it wasn't a breach of FD, gross misconduct, not 'wrongdoing' and not worthy of being sacked for. Edited October 15, 2021 by Coconut's Beard Comrade 86, RadioactiveWaste and I know nuffin 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram59 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 On 13/10/2021 at 14:01, Foreveram said: It doesn’t seem so long ago since Charlton fans wanted Curbishley out because it was time for them to “ move to the next level “ . Add to that Bolton with big Sam. EtoileSportiveDeDerby and r_wilcockson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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