24Charlie Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Great game today. From my seat behind the goal in the North Stand I was treated to two goals. The flight of Bird’s strike left the keeper rooted to the spot and in an effort to redeem himself he flew out and was then completely bamboozled by Curtis’s nod on. From a physiological point of view a I think we can survive 12 but 21 is totally different. 12 gives us something to fight for and the players will dig in but if it’s 21 they’ll start thinking if it’s worth putting their bodies on the line for a lost cause. I wonder how many is too much psychological speaking. jono, Rammy03 and RAM1966 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 1 minute ago, 24Charlie said: Great game today. From my seat behind the goal in the North Stand I was treated to two goals. The flight of Bird’s strike left the keeper rooted to the spot and in an effort to redeem himself he flew out and was then completely bamboozled by Curtis’s nod on. From a physiological point of view a I think we can survive 12 but 21 is totally different. 12 gives us something to fight for and the players will dig in but if it’s 21 they’ll start thinking if it’s worth putting their bodies on the line for a lost cause. I wonder how many is too much psychological speaking. It’s likely to be 21 I would think…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonwright Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Who is going to fight the nine plus three now anyway? Mel? It'll be 21 and we are going down, but in a way that's the least of our worries now. r_wilcockson and Jimbo Ram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Call me deluded but I think if we can keep our players then we'll survive 12 points. I actually think we can do it. 21 points and yeah we'd need playoff form. Add in the psychological aspect and it just isn't going to happen realistically. But whatever happens, there's no point throwing the towel in. The season has just started. Anything is possible. r_wilcockson, RoyMac5, Ramarena and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1967RAMS Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 1 minute ago, 24Charlie said: Great game today. From my seat behind the goal in the North Stand I was treated to two goals. The flight of Bird’s strike left the keeper rooted to the spot and in an effort to redeem himself he flew out and was then completely bamboozled by Curtis’s nod on. From a physiological point of view a I think we can survive 12 but 21 is totally different. 12 gives us something to fight for and the players will dig in but if it’s 21 they’ll start thinking if it’s worth putting their bodies on the line for a lost cause. I wonder how many is too much psychological speaking. I think 12 is too many to survive The psychological effect on the squad when we are rock bottom of the league is massive. Shef Wed a prime example last season, turned to poo straight after the points deducted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yani P Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 The players went out today knowing a -12 was the minimum and played their hearts out.. TigerTedd, RAM1966, I know nuffin and 12 others 5 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Just now, 1967RAMS said: I think 12 is too many to survive The psychological effect on the squad when we are rock bottom of the league is massive. Shef Wed a prime example last season, turned to poo straight after the points deducted Sheffield Wednesday were crap anyway. Contrast that with Wigan who put in a valiant effort when they were deducted points. They lost just 1 in 15 games at the end of the season. They were so close, a win on the final day would have done it. We already know we're going to be deducted 12 and we weren't poo today. Just don't look at the table. It's 45 to survive. Derby4Me, r_wilcockson, RoyMac5 and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 We won’t survive 12. Sorry to burst any bubbles, but we just wont. Our team isn’t good enough to get 60 points this season. We’ll pick up unexpected points along the way, morale-boosting wins. But we won’t score enough goals while we will have natural ruts in form too. 4 points from Stoke and WBA is excellent. But 2 points from Forest, Boro and Brum before that is poor. We’ll have similar runs throughout the season. Can’t fault the effort. But the quality isn’t there. Derby4Me, Cook1988, NottsRam77 and 2 others 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Just now, Bris Vegas said: We won’t survive 12. Sorry to burst any bubbles, but we just wont. Our team isn’t good enough to get 60 points this season. We’ll pick up unexpected points along the way, morale-boosting wins. But we won’t score enough goals while we will have natural ruts in form too. 4 points from Stoke and WBA is excellent. But 2 points from Forest, Boro and Brum before that is poor. We’ll have similar runs throughout the season. Can’t fault the effort. But the quality isn’t there. Not listening tonight. AbuDerbyDave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Just now, Bris Vegas said: We won’t survive 12. Sorry to burst any bubbles, but we just wont. Our team isn’t good enough to get 60 points this season. We’ll pick up unexpected points along the way, morale-boosting wins. But we won’t score enough goals while we will have natural ruts in form too. 4 points from Stoke and WBA is excellent. But 2 points from Forest, Boro and Brum before that is poor. We’ll have similar runs throughout the season. Can’t fault the effort. But the quality isn’t there. You have as much idea as I have. You could argue that this administration will galvanise the team even further. davenportram, RoyMac5, Ted McMinn Football Genius and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 1 minute ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said: Not listening tonight. And you shouldn’t. Enjoy tonight. The reaction today from the players, staff and crowd was brilliant. Red_Dawn, Ted McMinn Football Genius and Boycie 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaltRam Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: We won’t survive 12. Sorry to burst any bubbles, but we just wont. Our team isn’t good enough to get 60 points this season. We’ll pick up unexpected points along the way, morale-boosting wins. But we won’t score enough goals while we will have natural ruts in form too. 4 points from Stoke and WBA is excellent. But 2 points from Forest, Boro and Brum before that is poor. We’ll have similar runs throughout the season. Can’t fault the effort. But the quality isn’t there. Have you thought about a career as a motivational speaker? jono, REDCAR, Kathcairns and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Boycie said: You have as much idea as I have. You could argue that this administration will galvanise the team even further. You can hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 The league wanted Morris out - the FFP penalty will be left I reckon as new owners shouldn’t be punished for mistakes of the old. FFP punishment for me should only be applied if the owners who committed the offence will still be in ownership Rammy03, Kathcairns, r_wilcockson and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Just now, Bris Vegas said: You can hope. We have the Big Polish midfielder to return yet, plus maybe new owners and some help in January if we are allowed free agents. StockholmRam, Rammy03, Bris Vegas and 2 others 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 17 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: We won’t survive 12. Sorry to burst any bubbles, but we just wont. Our team isn’t good enough to get 60 points this season. We’ll pick up unexpected points along the way, morale-boosting wins. But we won’t score enough goals while we will have natural ruts in form too. 4 points from Stoke and WBA is excellent. But 2 points from Forest, Boro and Brum before that is poor. We’ll have similar runs throughout the season. Can’t fault the effort. But the quality isn’t there. I know you're being realistic and practical but after yesterday please can we just have one evening on cloud 9 before reality hits again r_wilcockson, 48 hours, Bris Vegas and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De22Ram Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Could even be 24! The 9 points was a deal negotiated by dell! 3 suspended! I heard that the adminstrators cant take that deal he did n would have to re negotiate! So potentially 24 but i doubt that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 1 hour ago, De22Ram said: Could even be 24! The 9 points was a deal negotiated by dell! 3 suspended! I heard that the adminstrators cant take that deal he did n would have to re negotiate! So potentially 24 but i doubt that! LOL! Rev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammeister Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 (edited) At current rate of point scoring we are on for 57.5 for the season. Overturning 12 points is manageable IF we can get some reinforcements in January- IF we get a buyer. Edited September 18, 2021 by Rammeister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramcoteRam84 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Bris Vegas said: We won’t survive 12. Sorry to burst any bubbles, but we just wont. Our team isn’t good enough to get 60 points this season. We’ll pick up unexpected points along the way, morale-boosting wins. But we won’t score enough goals while we will have natural ruts in form too. 4 points from Stoke and WBA is excellent. But 2 points from Forest, Boro and Brum before that is poor. We’ll have similar runs throughout the season. Can’t fault the effort. But the quality isn’t there. I know you can’t get there because you live abroad but if you had been there today, you would have a different opinion. Im absolutely convinced we can overturn -12, -21 would be a challenge. We’ll probably look like surviving and then the EFL will give us -9 in April!! Bris Vegas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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