wollatonram Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 At what point do we acknowledge there is a good chance we are going down this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuffLuff Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 That was on the players tonight in my opinion and I think the fans are giving them a huge let off at the minute. The attitude is shocking, from senior players to boot. It’s summed up in the few minutes that lead up to the goal, two important challenges won by QPR whilst our players rolled around trying to get a free kick. I’m honestly at a loss as to what Cocu can do about that What happened when we won the ball in a 50/50? It got to Waghorn or another attacker and broke down from indecision rather than pressing with the ball. A shocking performance by a set of players that need to show they actually want to get out of this mess. Not that I don’t think Cocu has any questions to answer by the way, and I’m sure I’ll get the responses of ‘isn’t this Cocu’s job!?!?’ etc, but if you think that’s the only problem here then you are in for a bit of a shock if Cocu goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Awful interview for PC,horrible watching him like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 12 minutes ago, minesahartington said: Wassell short term to get the best back from the young players he knows and instil the belief and style they do possess. It can’t get any worse literally We are on an unwinning run. What is Derby's record non Premier unwinning run. No case to keep Cocu now. Enough fit players to be miserable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, G STAR RAM said: Dont like singling players out but Lawrence has literally walked through the last 180 minutes of football, looks completely uninterested. Not sure if it's a fitness thing or not. He looked sharp when he first came back in. He also was part of that great first 20 mins vs Bournemouth that seemed have finished off Rooney and Waghorn too. Obviously none of them had a preseason and think we are suffering now. I'd drop all 3 on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 I would have stuck with 3 at the back. Curtis and Clarke was an accident waiting to happen, too slow. The whole performance was so slow and lethargic. Just don’t think Rooney deserves his place. Just seems to slow everything down. We deserved nothing and got nothing. Worrying times but still a long way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollycutts1982 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Van Cone De Head said: Awful interview for PC,horrible watching him like this. What was said? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRBee Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, wollatonram said: At what point do we acknowledge there is a good chance we are going down this season. The season is quite saveable but NOT WITH COCU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellafella Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, Van Cone De Head said: Awful interview for PC,horrible watching him like this. I really feel for Phillip there. But I feel worse when I look at a table where we are only above a side who started on a minus score. Our worst 2nd tier start for 50 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wollatonram Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Wycombe win, Forest win, Sheff W get points restored. The takeover needs to happen before January, worrying times ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archram Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 I’ve just discovered I’m not the eternal optimist that I’d always believed I was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LincsRam Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Geez that was a crap game, maybe Marshall, Byrne, Jozniak and Rooney first half can get a little credit, the rest virtually non existent. How many lazy or piss poor passes did we make, Lawrence bar 15 mins in the 2nd half was hiding, Forsyth couldn't hit a barn door from 5ft away, subs completely ineffectual and 15 minutes late again, tactics either ignored or not understood by the players. I thought I saw shoots of improvement in the last 3 games but this was a resumption of normal (crap) service and my patience is done. Cocu you are nice fellow but your tactics don't fit the championship or our players, your lack of animation on the touchline is worrying and the bizarre subs have done me in. For me, Cocu out, final 6 games of last season and all of this is enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Ellafella said: I really feel for Phillip there. But I feel worse when I look at a table where we are only above a side who started on a minus score. Why are you so homophobic?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1of4 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 I've seen more passion and commitment from kids having a kick-about on the local park, than I witnessed from most of the players that were wearing a Derby shirt tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, ariotofmyown said: Not sure if it's a fitness thing or not. He looked sharp when he first came back in. He also was part of that great first 20 mins vs Bournemouth that seemed have finished off Rooney and Waghorn too. Obviously none of them had a preseason and think we are suffering now. I'd drop all 3 on Saturday. trouble is, we've nothing reliably better to bring in. The high risk strategy could be Ibe, CKR and Whittaker. Or maybe stick with Joswiak as he seemed to do slightly less appallingly than the rest of them. But thats another untried group who have never played together. Might work but what a long shot..... In the words of King Theoden..."how did it ever come to this"........? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Danny Crowley making some good tactical points whilst being diplomatic about cocu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrisoner Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ellafella said: What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldstar Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 That was not nice to watch, you can tell he wants to have a huge rant but can't. And the bit about ask Mr Morris about the takeover with a tight smile says a lot. I think this is a horrible mix of really bad luck, unsuitable manager for the job, and unsavoury lack of effort from the players. Should never get to the point that the players don't give it their all but it has and i hope this doesn't carry on much longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 7 minutes ago, wollatonram said: At what point do we acknowledge there is a good chance we are going down this season. Don't be silly, we are clearly "too good to go down". No one has ever got relegated after saying that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: I would have stuck with 3 at the back. Curtis and Clarke was an accident waiting to happen, too slow. The whole performance was so slow and lethargic. Just don’t think Rooney deserves his place. Just seems to slow everything down. We deserved nothing and got nothing. Worrying times but still a long way to go. Rooney is an odd one, feel I agree with you and then think of his 2 efforts on goal which could have easily gone in. Not as poo as I first thought and generally he is getting more stick merely because he is Wayne effing Rooney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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