Topram Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 16 minutes ago, MACKWORTHRAM said: Good of Owen to clarify. Anything he says I would believe over anyone. What kind of media do we have that the local radio say one thing and the local paper say another. Surely they should all be singing off the same hymn sheet? It's no wonder fans don't take what they say seriously or question everything. Because it's so conflicting. Ed always says he’s spoke to Mel about it, strange he’s spoke to Mel but still doesn’t have a clue ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Saunder’s hat trick Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Anyone relay what the tweet said? Been deleted. Takeover won’t happen until after the appeal decision and mclaren possibly only here a month...that about the whole gist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 30 minutes ago, CornwallRam said: My understanding is that a points deduction is still possible, but it is likely to be a small one if it happens. In a normal season it wouldn't be too much of a problem. The irony is that the paralysis caused by the takeover is costing far more points than the potential EFL punishment. I just cant see how they could give us a points deduction. The report from the original hearing absolutely slaughtered the EFL, the only thing we were found to have done remotely wrong, was that we didnt make it clear how we were doing our accounting, not that the accounting method was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 28 minutes ago, Gaspode said: I’m not even sure what the basis of the appeal is as the previous hearing found we’d acted within the rules but simply hasn’t made it clear enough in the accounts EFL is (still) saying we inflated profits, not because of the stadium deal, but because we did not sufficiently write down (amortise) players' values in the accounts as their contracts ran off. But this was known to the Sheikh when the announcement was made so why would this cause delay? Anyway, Owen has told us it's not the reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 19 minutes ago, Topram said: Ed always says he’s spoke to Mel about it, strange he’s spoke to Mel but still doesn’t have a clue ? Well that's the thing that got me excited about the takeover originally, I'm sure Ed said on the day of the Bournemouth game that he had spoken to Mel and we were looking at a big takeover worth billions (or words to that effect). Hope he wasn't yanking my chain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramos Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 57 minutes ago, CornwallRam said: My understanding is that a points deduction is still possible, but it is likely to be a small one if it happens. In a normal season it wouldn't be too much of a problem. The irony is that the paralysis caused by the takeover is costing far more points than the potential EFL punishment. You’re right it would be a small one. We haven’t got many points to deduct ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Fundamental misunderstanding on the appeal. The EFL are not appealing the part of the amortisation charge which we were found guilty of, but those parts that we weren't. The 'slap on the wrist' would have come if there'd been no appeal. If the appeal is successful they can punish us for the full charge, ie failing FFP and attempting to cover it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 54 minutes ago, Gaspode said: Why should they all be saying the same thing? - they report what they know or what they suspect. except the ones who are properly close to the club. Those ones want continued access. So they report only what the club wants to be reported Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 4 hours ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said: Surprise surprise, Ed Dawes acting like he’s in with the big boys. You can see it from a mile off. Exactly. He is a total nobody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 10 hours ago, Bubbles said: https://twitter.com/ramswriter/status/1334946721361768452?s=21 duck THE EFL The link just takes me to a sign in page and I don't have an account. Could anyone put up a screenshot of the tweet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 8 hours ago, CornwallRam said: Fundamental misunderstanding on the appeal. The EFL are not appealing the part of the amortisation charge which we were found guilty of, but those parts that we weren't. The 'slap on the wrist' would have come if there'd been no appeal. If the appeal is successful they can punish us for the full charge, ie failing FFP and attempting to cover it up. That’s not what was reported at the time the appeal was announced - which is why so many of us can’t get our heads round the point of the appeal...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1967Ram Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 9 hours ago, Ramos said: You’re right it would be a small one. We haven’t got many points to deduct ?? Oh, so it's all been a cunning plan? ? Once the EFL's appeal has gone through and the final decision taken we'll see the real Rams, rather than the lambs to the slaughter we've witnessed so far this season? Wish I'd known - I've spent a bloody fortune on what has been inaccurately described as football so far this season! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 20 minutes ago, Gaspode said: That’s not what was reported at the time the appeal was announced - which is why so many of us can’t get our heads round the point of the appeal...... If you look back at the reporting, I think what you are referring to is the club statement, rather than the EFL appeal. The club effectively said that the appeal is ridiculous as it will just mean a minor adjustment of the figures if it succeeds, ie redoing them using straight line amortisation. Even if that's the case, the implication is that we could fail FFP for the seasons involved, but by less than if the stadium charge had been accepted. Hence we could still get a points deduction, but a far smaller one than the possible 23 point max. I reckon something close to the Shef Wed 6 points is likely if found guilty and the new figures failing FFP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector was the best Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 At what point do we say this deal is dead ?? and then get on with the rest of our lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawhillram Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 26 minutes ago, Hector was the best said: At what point do we say this deal is dead ?? and then get on with the rest of our lives. In 5 minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 9 hours ago, MuespachRam said: Exactly. He is a total nob Ftfy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 11 hours ago, CornwallRam said: Fundamental misunderstanding on the appeal. The EFL are not appealing the part of the amortisation charge which we were found guilty of, but those parts that we weren't. The 'slap on the wrist' would have come if there'd been no appeal. If the appeal is successful they can punish us for the full charge, ie failing FFP and attempting to cover it up. 2 hours ago, Gaspode said: That’s not what was reported at the time the appeal was announced - which is why so many of us can’t get our heads round the point of the appeal...... I understood it was the amortisation judgement that they appealed. I also thought that the judgement was a bit weak on that one charge. From memory it boiled down to whether we had a systematic process. The judgement was that we probably did but that we hadn’t evidenced it. That seemed a bit charitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 39 minutes ago, Hector was the best said: At what point do we say this deal is dead ?? and then get on with the rest of our lives. 48 hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chezzyram Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 16 hours ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: Wouldnt be black Friday mate, apparently the whole of Arabia shuts down at the weekend, might explain why Lawrence is so crap every Saturday. I think he must have been waiting for Cyber Monday. Lawrence of Arabia? Might explain the frequent charges straight into defenders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampant Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 This club of ours is an absolute mess at the moment. It just screams relegation sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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