Reggie Greenwood Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 11 minutes ago, Dean (hick) Saunders said: Does not seem much of a gamble to me. Suspect majority would be positive if you did a survey. Only the usual grumpy’s will be unhappy it’s not Messi. Some wouldn’t be happy if we signed Ronaldo and Messi , too old , wrong kind of goals etc ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samtheram83 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, falconram said: Good signing if it happens, impressed last time around and I'm sure folks would see him as a step up for Bennett or Zoon,give him a chance, he's 24 not 34 My first reaction to the rumour was that we’ve got rid of Bennett and replaced him with Ibe and I’m good with that, assuming it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 23 minutes ago, David said: Contributed just 45 minutes last season, have a day off ? It’s a “team” game....if they had won the league as sure as eggs come out of a chickens behind he would have been after getting a medal for It.!! (you do know i think if jt happens It is an amazing signing don’t you?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 I can see this being a season long deal with an option for 2 more if he impresses. If he impresses a lot , leaves him free and easy to move elsewhere. If not we lose a years wage and he signs for Bognor. If he's ok, might get the additional years as he's better than what we've got . Worth a punt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Whilst very excited at the prospect of signing, I do think many here are guilty of over-hyping Ibe’s impact when here on loan. He was just about beginning to be effective when recalled. He was a kid though. I reckon with a good coach and support, he could still have a great career. I’m hoping he becomes another Adama Traore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longeatonram2020 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: I can see this being a season long deal with an option for 2 more if he impresses. If he impresses a lot , leaves him free and easy to move elsewhere. If not we lose a years wage and he signs for Bognor. If he's ok, might get the additional years as he's better than what we've got . Worth a punt. Loan from who? He doesnt have a club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 12 minutes ago, Zag zig said: Read last 2 pages and didn’t feel that way. As you were then, all good, everyone happy. Just read the two pages before your reply. Jourdan is the only poster being negative about it, and then there's Muespach being Muespach by arguing every single point literally (don't even know what he thinks about Ibe himself). Literally every opinion post outside of those two is in favour of him coming, and it's a similar pattern in the other 18 pages of this thread. As I said, there's been very little negativity surrounding this. Edit: @MuespachRam just said he thinks it will be an amazing signing. So @Jourdan is the only one I can recall being against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, Longeatonram2020 said: Loan from who? He doesnt have a club I didn't mention a loan? or did i, let me check Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, Longeatonram2020 said: Loan from who? He doesnt have a club I didn't- season long- might be the confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longeatonram2020 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 10 minutes ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: I didn't- season long- might be the confusion. Ah yes, makes sense now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo jones Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 14 minutes ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: I didn't mention a loan? or did i, let me check I read it as loan at first too ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 3 hours ago, Topram said: I’d be much more confident going into a game with a front 4 like Marriott Ibe Lawrence Jozwaik we definitely still need another striker wether it be a loan to buy or just a back up striker Think you spelt 'Martin' wrong bud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Ram Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 1 hour ago, MuespachRam said: "contributed"....as in every single person at the club "contributed" to it. Harsh on the cleaning ladies, that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wignall12 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 59 minutes ago, Longeatonram2020 said: Loan from who? He doesnt have a club Read it again ...it says season LONG deal , not loan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 1 hour ago, LeedsCityRam said: That would maybe the case if Ibe were 28/29 but he's 24 and hasn't really had a proper playing career in the division above to consider a move to Derby as a downward step. There are plenty of examples of players not working out at clubs & then needing a fresh move to invigorate their careers. Martin for example had gone up with Norwich, barely got picked thereafter & ended up with us as a punt on a free transfer - similar age incidentally & stayed for 7 years. Don't disagree Ibe is a gamble but all transfers are gambles. He's young, talented & has played well here previously - if the deal is sensible, I think its a shrewd move. Yes yes and yes. i really hope this happens. There is no doubt at all that Ibe can play in the championship. He did very well for us as an 18 year old and now has what, 4/5 years experience under his belt. ? Despite his flaws he used to light the place up when he came on as a sub whilst on loan. People talk about “impact subs” with a casual regard .. either it’s a young player or old sage and for lots of reasons .. but for us Ibe always made an impact. I don’t know for sure if he will be a Abu Camara flattering to deceive, or something better. .. I know for sure that he can beat a man, has real flair and since I saw Christians Ronaldo in His first united appearance I haven’t seen a player make opponents look so lumpen as they tried to stop him. .. I know there will be some who laugh at the comparison, and yeah .. he isn’t Ronaldo by a long way, but he could be a Ronaldo in the Championship.. oh and he’s free and he is 23 ...... remind me what we payed for Johnson, Anya, Butterfield and Blackman ? this is zero risk and very exciting .. PS .. as you’ll gather from the above, I am a bit of an Ibe groupie. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 1 hour ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said: Literally every opinion post outside of those two is in favour of him coming, and it's a similar pattern in the other 18 pages of this thread. As I said, there's been very little negativity surrounding this. So @Jourdan is the only one I can recall being against it. I am not against it, in principle. We obviously need wingers, a striker and a central midfielder. I am just a bit wary. Unlike Norwich, Brentford, Watford amongst others, we don’t have very much margin for error. If you weigh up our recent luck in the transfer market, our financial situation, Ibe’s career trajectory, and the way the team is playing currently, it looks like a recipe for disaster. It is a massive risk to pin our hopes on a player that needs nursing back to his former self. After all it could be weeks or months before Ibe even gets match fit and gets to grips with Cocuball, when really the team needs a shot in the arm now. Are you confident that Cocu is up to the task of rebuilding Ibe’s confidence and turning his career around? It seems a tall order to me. The existing group are not exactly brimming with confidence or looking particularly responsive to his methods. Few goals, few chances, very few signs of intent. The entire squad looks shot of confidence, coherence, quality and intent, how will adding an already confidence-ridden and struggling Ibe help? It looks like another Dowell episode in the making - another talented player that comes to the club with a huge burden of expectation and never delivers on their promise. I’ll be glad to be wrong. But not much we have touched in recent years has turned to gold. Our hot streak was 7-8 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philmycock Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 31 minutes ago, Jourdan said: I am not against it, in principle. We obviously need wingers, a striker and a central midfielder. I am just a bit wary. Unlike Norwich, Brentford, Watford amongst others, we don’t have very much margin for error. If you weigh up our recent luck in the transfer market, our financial situation, Ibe’s career trajectory, and the way the team is playing currently, it looks like a recipe for disaster. It is a massive risk to pin our hopes on a player that needs nursing back to his former self. After all it could be weeks or months before Ibe even gets match fit and gets to grips with Cocuball, when really the team needs a shot in the arm now. Are you confident that Cocu is up to the task of rebuilding Ibe’s confidence and turning his career around? It seems a tall order to me. The existing group are not exactly brimming with confidence or looking particularly responsive to his methods. Few goals, few chances, very few signs of intent. The entire squad looks shot of confidence, coherence, quality and intent, how will adding an already confidence-ridden and struggling Ibe help? It looks like another Dowell episode in the making - another talented player that comes to the club with a huge burden of expectation and never delivers on their promise. I’ll be glad to be wrong. But not much we have touched in recent years has turned to gold. Our hot streak was 7-8 years ago. Cheer up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 37 minutes ago, Jourdan said: I am not against it, in principle. We obviously need wingers, a striker and a central midfielder. I am just a bit wary. Unlike Norwich, Brentford, Watford amongst others, we don’t have very much margin for error. If you weigh up our recent luck in the transfer market, our financial situation, Ibe’s career trajectory, and the way the team is playing currently, it looks like a recipe for disaster. It is a massive risk to pin our hopes on a player that needs nursing back to his former self. After all it could be weeks or months before Ibe even gets match fit and gets to grips with Cocuball, when really the team needs a shot in the arm now. Are you confident that Cocu is up to the task of rebuilding Ibe’s confidence and turning his career around? It seems a tall order to me. The existing group are not exactly brimming with confidence or looking particularly responsive to his methods. Few goals, few chances, very few signs of intent. The entire squad looks shot of confidence, coherence, quality and intent, how will adding an already confidence-ridden and struggling Ibe help? It looks like another Dowell episode in the making - another talented player that comes to the club with a huge burden of expectation and never delivers on their promise. I’ll be glad to be wrong. But not much we have touched in recent years has turned to gold. Our hot streak was 7-8 years ago. But we are not “ pinning our hopes “ on Ibe we are getting another Polish international winger and hopefully another forward as well . So pressure should be off him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmberRamber Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 37 minutes ago, Jourdan said: I am not against it, in principle. We obviously need wingers, a striker and a central midfielder. I am just a bit wary. Unlike Norwich, Brentford, Watford amongst others, we don’t have very much margin for error. If you weigh up our recent luck in the transfer market, our financial situation, Ibe’s career trajectory, and the way the team is playing currently, it looks like a recipe for disaster. It is a massive risk to pin our hopes on a player that needs nursing back to his former self. After all it could be weeks or months before Ibe even gets match fit and gets to grips with Cocuball, when really the team needs a shot in the arm now. Are you confident that Cocu is up to the task of rebuilding Ibe’s confidence and turning his career around? It seems a tall order to me. The existing group are not exactly brimming with confidence or looking particularly responsive to his methods. Few goals, few chances, very few signs of intent. The entire squad looks shot of confidence, coherence, quality and intent, how will adding an already confidence-ridden and struggling Ibe help? It looks like another Dowell episode in the making - another talented player that comes to the club with a huge burden of expectation and never delivers on their promise. I’ll be glad to be wrong. But not much we have touched in recent years has turned to gold. Our hot streak was 7-8 years ago. B stand wrist slasher as pessimistic Derby fans were called at the Baseball Ground. Moaning fans are the reason I won't go to matches anymore. One wrong pass from anyone and its shouts of "get him off" So to summarise Cocu is rubbish ibe is shot to pieces..... Christ alive I wish I'd not read this post. Used to love watching football now its all just criticise. And now the defensive rebuttal will no doubt be winging itself my way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Brolly Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, AmberRamber said: B stand wrist slasher as pessimistic Derby fans were called at the Baseball Ground. Moaning fans are the reason I won't go to matches anymore. One wrong pass from anyone and its shouts of "get him off" So to summarise Cocu is rubbish ibe is shot to pieces..... Christ alive I wish I'd not read this post. Used to love watching football now its all just criticise. And now the defensive rebuttal will no doubt be winging itself my way. Bloody hell it's just a opinion on a forum calm yourself down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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