europia Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 41 minutes ago, Moist One said: he's telling blokes to kick a ball, not performing brain surgery! Experience not an asset then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S8TY Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 20 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Rowett? No I never wanted Rowett in the first place...we have been perrenial losers Roy but I'd want a clean slate if i was Mel now....From manager to youth get coaches who play similarly and can connect with each other making players coming through more seamless....get a manager who can start that from the top and hopefully stick around a bit longer than Frank will because this is a long term thing and yes its been pointed out that no managers hang around long but at least think they might!!! but make the project long term and managers can come and go but keep the theory that same....don't replace one type of manager for a complete opposite, if we want to play decent attacking football then go get a manager who plays that way..... Thats why i'd opt for a manager who might see this as a long term project and there are those types about, if we want to play nice passing football , then get a manager who plays nice passing football and get the other age groups playing the same. We do not know what we are getting with lampard i get that but i do not trust mel to get this right.....he hasn't before!! I love this club like everyone does on here but i personally don't want a stepping stone manager i want someone in the Eddie Howe mould or Paul Tisdale mould who wants to be here and create something long term with a few foundations in place. Yes some thought Rowett was Derby through and through but he wasn't and I for one am glad hes done one !! because the football was crap....he's done Mel, DCFC and us fans a favour by going. We now have an oppurtunity to clear the decks a bit and start again so lets take it.... ps...if Lamps gets the job i will get behind him and DCFC I always have and always will i'm just saying as a fan having an opinion like everyone else on here it would not be my choice of direction to go in...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 1 minute ago, europia said: Experience not an asset then? It wasn't for Pearson, nor Gregory, nor Clough, but then again, Clement had none and got a cracking start, Rowett has some and had a good middle, McClaren had plenty and had a great start. Stoke hired experience, Lambert, didn't count as an asset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverurie Ram Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Sidebottom........Yeah, Yeah, Yeah. But if it's that posh spoilt spiv that will have us diving, lying, cheating, surrounding the ref, and doing all the other spiv behaviour well he can stick his robbed celery and blue flag up his bottom! Hit the North!.......We need a Northerner not a greedy robbing spiv that will bleed us dry and will also do a runner at the sniff of another spiv team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Moist One said: It wasn't for Pearson, nor Gregory, nor Clough, but then again, Clement had none and got a cracking start, Rowett has some and had a good middle, McClaren had plenty and had a great start. Stoke hired experience, Lambert, didn't count as an asset. Not good examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Just now, europia said: Not good examples. they're examples of there being no pattern or way of knowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 2 hours ago, Jimbo Ram said: He would probably be in the top 10..... That would be a really good thread topic but have we time with such excitement ? in other areas Lampard, Scholes, Makalele, Keane, Vierra .. late 90’s ear.y 2000’s was a great time for midfield maestros of such differing types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Just now, Moist One said: they're examples of there being no pattern or way of knowing. I will still be bemused if FL gets the job. If he does, time will tell..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 2 hours ago, Beagle said: I guess he would counter that by saying look at what he has won. You can afford to win things ugly when you have millions of fans but just 40,000 watching you every other week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWC1983 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 35 minutes ago, Inverurie Ram said: Sidebottom........Yeah, Yeah, Yeah. But if it's that posh spoilt spiv that will have us diving, lying, cheating, surrounding the ref, and doing all the other spiv behaviour well he can stick his robbed celery and blue flag up his bottom! Hit the North!.......We need a Northerner not a greedy robbing spiv that will bleed us dry and will also do a runner at the sniff of another spiv team. Im up in your neck of the woods tomorrow morning. Breckie in Weatherspoons before train to Inverness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Is he our manager yet?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRainy Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 People talk about the difficulty of the task ahead for an inexperienced manager, but it seems to me that it’s a good time to take this sort of risk. With Rowett gone and the financial restrictions that we have, it looks like a season of treading water until a number of players’ contracts are up in 2019. Anyone coming in to start building for the future won’t really be able to start developing the squad they want until the season after. I’ve no idea what Lampard might be capable of, but we potentially have more to gain than lose at the moment by giving him a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 2 hours ago, Beagle said: I guess he would counter that by saying look at what he has won. But we’re never going to be in a position of winning big trophies. Derby’s long-term limit is midtable PL football with the odd cup run and perhaps Europa League campaign. I can live with that if we play entertaining, easy-on-the-eye football and being attracted to exciting young players from both UK and abroad. Swansea City under Laudrup would be a dream. Midtable, decent football, cup final win and Europa campaign, winning 3-0 at Valencia! Imagine that for us... What I don’t want is a ‘get to the PL at all costs’ or ‘stay in the PL at all costs’ playing turgid defensive football like Rowettball. Entertain me like McClaren and Burley and any manager would get my full attention, regardless of whether we go up or not. That’s why I’m all for Dean Smith as I know he will look to play decent football. There is no guarantee Frank Lampard won’t set us up like Clement, or Pearson, or Rowett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverurie Ram Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 26 minutes ago, CWC1983 said: Im up in your neck of the woods tomorrow morning. Breckie in Weatherspoons before train to Inverness. Wetherspoons in Aberdeen or Wetherspoons (The Gordon Highlander) in Inverurie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuwtfly Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 8 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: Entertain me like McClaren and Burley and any manager would get my full attention, regardless of whether we go up or not. That’s why I’m all for Dean Smith as I know he will look to play decent football. There is no guarantee Frank Lampard won’t set us up like Clement, or Pearson, or Rowett. This is exactly why I am still leaning towards Dean Smith, despite the rather snowballing hype around the Lampard appointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 14 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: But we’re never going to be in a position of winning big trophies. Derby’s long-term limit is midtable PL football with the odd cup run and perhaps Europa League campaign. I can live with that if we play entertaining, easy-on-the-eye football and being attracted to exciting young players from both UK and abroad. Swansea City under Laudrup would be a dream. Midtable, decent football, cup final win and Europa campaign, winning 3-0 at Valencia! Imagine that for us... What I don’t want is a ‘get to the PL at all costs’ or ‘stay in the PL at all costs’ playing turgid defensive football like Rowettball. Entertain me like McClaren and Burley and any manager would get my full attention, regardless of whether we go up or not. That’s why I’m all for Dean Smith as I know he will look to play decent football. There is no guarantee Frank Lampard won’t set us up like Clement, or Pearson, or Rowett. There’s no guarantee he will either. Any appointment will be a risk, Dean Smith may turn out to be completely incompetent without a director of football. In our position we need all the links we can get to bring in loan players and Lampard woild certainly offer that. It’s a risk of course, but a risk worth taking, given what else is available imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsnip Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 15 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: There is no guarantee Frank Lampard won’t set us up like Clement, or Pearson, or Rowett. I'm assuming Lampard will be attack minded, reflective of his playing style, which is massively exciting. Just like Rowett is more defensive minded, reflective of his Sorry I fell asleep for a minute there.. where was I? Oh yeah Rowett's football style is Damn I fell asleep again! What we're we talking about? Yeah Rowett was more about retaining defensive sha ... Row . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsnip Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 22 minutes ago, Nuwtfly said: the rather snowballing hype around the Lampard appointment What hype? I haven't noticed anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BondJovi Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Just waiting for the if to disappear from the title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wixman1884 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Happy Frank Lampard day everyone. If you'd have told me at the start of the week that stoke were going to give us 2 million pounds to take Rowett and we were going to replace him with Frank Lampard... on my birthday week too. This couldn't get any better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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