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Everything posted by McRainy

  1. It'll come back. ISDS is already causing havoc; for example, the Romanian government is currently being sued for 2% of its GDP by a Canadian mining company, because environmental protection laws prevent the mine from expanding.
  2. The correct procedure would be to campaign to rejoin once we have left. Then maybe you'll get another referendum in about forty years time.
  3. By closing down half the forum again, probably.
  4. What part of, I've been critical of the EU for forty years and didn't take any notice of the referendum campaigns, don't you understand? You haven't responded to any of the reasoning behind these criticisms that I, and others, have spelled out over many pages. Are you incapable of engaging with an argument, or is your sole raison d'etre trying to appear superior to others by repeatedly insulting their intelligence? Either way, it's extremely tiresome.
  5. Not really. EU 'protection' is currently just an option to exclude bodies like the NHS from deals like TTIP. It's a legal minefield which certainly hasn't been clearly defined. We will always be beholden to the EU to negotiate deals on our behalf, and given that they are not subject to democratic scrutiny, and that their primary remit is profit for private corporations, I have no faith that the NHS would be safe. I simply don't think that this power to determine the future of the NHS should be handed over to a body like the EU Commission.
  6. As long as that doesn't involve any kind of state intervention which intereferes with market forces and profitability, like nationalising utilities and public transport. The NHS is also going to be harder to defend in the EU than out of it, because it will be seen as a protected market, and corporations will have a legal right to compete in it.
  7. You vote for or against a government that has a defense policy.
  8. I suppose they'd start with the gilets jaunes, work up to Catalonia, and then flatten Greece. Good question though; what purpose do you think it serves, apart from lining the pockets of Juncker's mates?
  9. Different kettle. Chomsky has a very illustrious academic career behind him.
  10. Slight misunderstanding, I think. Expected to vote in the sense that the first vote would have been overruled.
  11. Apart from all the questions of who controls it and who pays for it, it would extend the power of the EU to impose its policies by force, and would also be a major military escalation on the world stage. And nobody voted for it, of course, but that seems irrelevant these days.
  12. If expecting us to vote again doesn't demonstrate that our votes count for nothing, then I don't know what does.
  13. Yup, he's right. I, for one, wouldn't vote again, and I know many others who feel the same.
  14. I thought it was pretty much common knowledge he was funded by American far right, anti Islamic, pro Israeli hate groups. Correct me if I'm wrong.
  15. Both feet needed; reform of capitalism is not possible, it simply subsumes and commodifies any attempt to change it on its own terms Organisations like the Labour Party and the traditional unions, which are supposed to represent the interests of working people, simply become part of the system as soon as they gain any power. They then actually serve to perpetuate the system by diverting our desire and efforts for change into ineffective channels. We need to wake up from the dream that 'leaders' are going to do anything for us, and start doing it for ourselves.
  16. Well, we did, we do, collectively, by tolerating a corrupt system of elite rule. The economies of countries like the UK and the US depend heavily on arms sales; it's not called the military industrial complex for nothing, war is big business. Check out for example, the profit made by Philip May's company from his wife's decision to bomb Syria.
  17. The orange hurt my eyes. Glad it's gone.
  18. Nearly did. Couldn't resist all the Lampard shizzle though...
  19. I joined Labour in 1983 on the strength of Foot's 'suicide' manifesto, left in 2003 over the Iraq war, and joined again in 2017 because of Corbyn's manifesto. That really was conditional though, on the promise to honour the referendum, and I feel they have now reneged on that promise. Labour have never offered a referendum on Europe. My allegiance isn't to a party, but to whatever seems most likely to deliver some measure of justice for working class and vulnerable people. I'm mostly in agreement with Chomsky's anarcho-syndicalism. I didn't vote Tory in 2015, I have never voted Tory. I didn't have any faith that they would actually call the referendum tbh, so Cameron surprised me. I might have held my nose and voted for them in 2017 if they had been the only party offering to take us out... but you just can't, can you. I think party politics is mostly a sham tbh; and we need to move beyond it to a more direct form of democracy. Anyway, you are right, I've spent far too much time bleating on here - time to go and do something useful!
  20. No doubt it was a shady move from Cameron to stave off UKIP and win votes, but surely the point is, it won votes; it's what a majority wanted. He did the right thing for the wrong reasons. It had been a long time coming though, and we should have had a referendum over the Maastricht Treaty. Tony Benn made the point that Westminster doesn't actually have the constitutional authority to hand over legislative powers to a foreign state without consulting the people. Parliament is all of us, not just the elected representatives. Our membership of the EU is actually the situation that doesn't have a mandate; the people who voted yes in 1975 were not voting for Maastricht No, I didn't expect Leave to win, partly because the full government propaganda machine was behind it, and partly because the electorate very rarely votes for significant change. I thought it would probably be a whitewash, like the PR referendum. I woke up on that fine sunny morning a very surprised and genuinely delighted bunny indeed. I went to the pub to celebrate, and the sun shone in through the windows on a world returned to sanity. As the song goes, the people had spoken, and the people said duck off! That it's been a shitshow ever since is not the fault of the original question, or the people who voted. Too many MPs forget that they are our representatives, and not our rulers.
  21. It was in the Tory manifesto and they won the election, so it had a democratic mandate, yes. Both Labour and the Conservatives also went into the last election promising to deliver the result.
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