Vyrdasm Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 Question for all open for debate I think we have brought a absolute flop and by January Warne will be looking to get rid I might add, Warne and the recruitment team also need to take responsibility for this. So far 12 games in league 1 and 3 pre season games and apart from one decent assist Vs Pompey away I haven't seen a jot he does nor what he contributes to the team. Doesn't press as Warne wants his team to do , doesn't try and put a tackle in to help his team mates, his skills seem random hoping one out of 10 might come off. Complete waste, lots of Charlton fans warned us when he joined saying he had a purple patch with them and he wouldn't be missed. Needs to step up quick.imo Macintosh, Magicman and therealhantsram 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 1 hour ago, Vyrdasm said: Question for all open for debate I think we have brought a absolute flop and by January Warne will be looking to get rid I might add, Warne and the recruitment team also need to take responsibility for this. So far 12 games in league 1 and 3 pre season games and apart from one decent assist Vs Pompey away I haven't seen a jot he does nor what he contributes to the team. Doesn't press as Warne wants his team to do , doesn't try and put a tackle in to help his team mates, his skills seem random hoping one out of 10 might come off. Complete waste, lots of Charlton fans warned us when he joined saying he had a purple patch with them and he wouldn't be missed. Needs to step up quick.imo He'll be like Croft and Teale by the looks of it. Come with a reputation, absolute bobbins for 12 months. Then he'll have 3 amazing games. Then he'll frustratingly turn bobbins again. At least he'll cost 10% of an Anya. Vyrdasm, therealhantsram and Magicman 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeTownRams Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Not helped by the fact that when he looked good and we bought him he was playing on the left wing for Charlton. Now, inexplicably PW only plays him on the right which just doesn’t play to the strengths of a player who loves to cut onside and shoot with his right foot..:: Fraser_23 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 There is clearly a problem. If only there was a way we could change his thinking and behaviour? vonwright, Anag Ram, ariotofmyown and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Not looking promising so far, although his performance in that Pompey game does give a ray of hope still. It would help if he could stay fit. My expectation is that he'll be backup/rotation for NML & Jackson for the first half of the season before being loaned to a promotion chasing L1 club in January, whilst we bring in an improvement probably on loan from a PL club. I'm convinced we'll get our £300k back given his age and previous performances at Charlton so I'm not too concerned. On the Ram Page 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-a-lama fa fa fa Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 i feel for all the stick he gets @Magicman may be right ive seen nothing from him that gives me confidence that this will work out (hopefully proves me wrong). a strange signing at best. im not sure what position he should play in if PW plays 3 cbs. unless its on the bench Magicman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Hang on, the Charlton fans said clearly enough that he doesn’t track back and isn’t exactly a team player so just leave him on the left wing and forget about putting a shift in but he will produce goals. I assume our scouts don’t read what other supporters say about their own players but Warne clearly has issues with what he sees in a similar fashion to Fornah and whilst we paid money for both of them they are not looking anywhere near first team material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-a-lama fa fa fa Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 2 minutes ago, Sparkle said: Hang on, the Charlton fans said clearly enough that he doesn’t track back and isn’t exactly a team player so just leave him on the left wing and forget about putting a shift in but he will produce goals. I assume our scouts don’t read what other supporters say about their own players but Warne clearly has issues with what he sees in a similar fashion to Fornah and whilst we paid money for both of them they are not looking anywhere near first team material. thats my worry re. monies spent by Pw on tranfers. his record so far is sketchy a best therealhantsram, RoyMac5 and strawhillram 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 13 minutes ago, Ram-a-lama fa fa fa said: thats my worry re. monies spent by Pw on tranfers. his record so far is sketchy a best Certainly is sketchy currently but doesn’t he spend ages assessing a player and talking to a player before trying to sign a player and then play them in a totally different position before realising they look crap and find a place on the bench for them strawhillram and TINMANTED 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 418 minutes of competitive football for us so far, with him joining when injured, and then having a few niggles whilst getting used to Warne's intensity. We haven't lost a single game he's started, including 85 minutes against Portsmouth. It's too soon to write him off. jono, Caerphilly Ram, Anag Ram and 12 others 7 1 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 As Derby fans, we do want him to be a success, right? Sometimes on here it’s hard to say. One goal and he might become a hero. Some players need the love of the crowd. He’s not getting that here so far. Carnero, Kathcairns, Premier ram and 16 others 11 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eatonram Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 45 minutes ago, i-Ram said: There is clearly a problem. If only there was a way we could change his thinking and behaviour? A bit too subtle for most I fear. They’d rather just go for the pitch forks. i-Ram and Crewton 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 50 minutes ago, i-Ram said: There is clearly a problem. If only there was a way we could change his thinking and behaviour? 5 steps aren't there? I think most will focus on: Step 1 - Assessment Step 5 - Termination i-Ram and angieram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlsonDerby Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Less than 500 minutes of football. It’s difficult to impress without any sort of consistent game time especially from what strikes me as a confidence player. Don't write him off yet. Off topic slightly - Tommy Barkhuizen has looked lively in pre season. That cross for Collins last night was pin point but aside from that he looked to make things happen. Crewton, eddielewis, angieram and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 9 minutes ago, Anag Ram said: As Derby fans, we do want him to be a success, right? Sometimes on here it’s hard to say. One goal and he might become a hero. Some players need the love of the crowd. He’s not getting that here so far. I think there are some people who would rather be right than for him to be a success BOB BIGGS, Crewton, Archied and 9 others 6 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouRams Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 He cost 300k yes at a time money was an issue but in the grand scheme of things now pennies, if he performs great if he doesn't no biggie. jono, Carnero and Crewton 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerphilly Ram Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 27 minutes ago, Anag Ram said: As Derby fans, we do want him to be a success, right? Sometimes on here it’s hard to say. One goal and he might become a hero. Some players need the love of the crowd. He’s not getting that here so far. That’s the bit I don’t get, it’s possible to observe he hasn’t delivered what maybe we’d hoped for yet, and still want him to succeed, it feels like some people just love a scapegoat each and every season. There’s still time for him to contribute with a ram on his chest, until the point he moves on I’ll always hope we get to see the best of him. angieram, Foreveram, jono and 6 others 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eatonram Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 This time last year I think Collins was the main scapegoat……..how many goals did he score? Crewton, nogbad van 50 and jono 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 36 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: 5 steps aren't there? I think most will focus on: Step 1 - Assessment Step 5 - Termination What Step is he on atm? Chester40 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Datdo-Dishes Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said: What Step is he on atm? The naughty one. Kathcairns, Archied, RoyMac5 and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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