Srg Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 6 minutes ago, MadAmster said: He joined us on Jan 31st. His last game for them was Jan 1st. He hasn't been injured this season, his 2nd at Cardiff. That Jan 1st game was Cardiff's 29th of the season in all competitions. Ebou was in the matchday squad for their season's opener at L**ds. In those 29 games he had 5 starts, was subbed off on 3 of those occasions. He was subbed on 8 times. I disagree with @Srg. Ebou was fit enough from the start of the season. Why else would he have been in the squad? Season 1 at Cardiff ended in pre season when he suffered a clean tear of his pectoral muscle tendon, 10 minutes into his first pre season game for them. He was due for a return six months later but then picked up a knee injury which ruled him out for the rest of the season without making a senior first team appearance. I was only offering a reason why he might not be in Cardiff's thoughts. I, obviously, don't know if he is or isn't. But changes in managers isn't an uncommon cause of players leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 57 minutes ago, CapeTownRams said: The main reason they loaned him out was because he’d had these big injuries and they not only wanted to get him match fit but also to see how he played. Both of those boxes have been ticked. I think most of us believe he can do it in the Championship- why would Cardiff now think differently? They obviously thought so when they bought him. But at the end of the day it will come down to how much we want to pay for him. Thorne helped us by agitating for a move, but I don’t see Ebou doing that… Well, to Cardiff fans, he's their "Sonny Bradley". Let's hope their manager isn't their "Paul Warne" eh? 😉 https://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=237629 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 13 minutes ago, Crewton said: Well, to Cardiff fans, he's their "Sonny Bradley". Let's hope their manager isn't their "Paul Warne" eh? 😉 https://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=237629 Slight deviation from topic since it's about Collins, but nice to see the locals are still bitter about 'snowgate' 🤣 RadioactiveWaste, Bob Gnarly, Crewton and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alty_Ram Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 18 hours ago, StarterForTen said: I think Ebou could be our modern day Darryl Powell. He played more than 200 games for the club, many in the Premier League and in a World Cup finals yet had no more technical ability than Adams possesses. Regardless of which division we're in, if we have a situation where Adams was our least accomplished pure footballing midfielder then it's not looking too shabby is it ? We've been crying out for some bite and physicality for years now and now some folks are worried that our defensive midfield specialist isn't also some creative genius too? It's all about a blend surely. The creative players can only flourish if we have a foothold in the game and are winning a decent proportion of midfield duels. Warne might not exactly be an advocate of total passing football but he knows that crosses don't get crossed and through balls don't get threaded through if you can't get the ball. angieram, Taribo and jono 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeTownRams Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Bottom line- we need to get him in the summer. Period. ramboy63, EtoileSportiveDeDerby, Premier ram and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 He stayed so long last night, that he ended up drawing the raffle! Got a resounding chorus of "Sign him up, sign him up" when he finally left. He was so positive about being at Derby, but we know it's not as simple as that. Cardiff will have the say because I don't think we'll pay silly money for him. But if he's got two offers on the table from championship clubs, I think he'd choose us unless it's one of the parachute clubs and the money is too good to turn down. Comrade 86, CornwallRam and Adslegend 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKANorwichExile Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 After years of watching us pay through the nose for form players who inevitably disappoint, it'd be really refreshing for us to become a club who pick up outcasts, misfits and players who just haven't worked out and mould them into a team of winners. Obviously that's a lot harder to do and requires top notch scouting and analytics, but doing a "Moneyball" and fitting the right players at the right time would be so satisfying. Especially when you think back to the Blackman and Anya signings *shudder* EtoileSportiveDeDerby, jono, Caerphilly Ram and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 1 hour ago, angieram said: He stayed so long last night, that he ended up drawing the raffle! Got a resounding chorus of "Sign him up, sign him up" when he finally left. He was so positive about being at Derby, but we know it's not as simple as that. Cardiff will have the say because I don't think we'll pay silly money for him. But if he's got two offers on the table from championship clubs, I think he'd choose us unless it's one of the parachute clubs and the money is too good to turn down. On reflection, a loan with a buy option would have been some very cute dealing, but it's easy after the event, isn't it? I think he's enjoyed his time with us too and I'm quite optimistic. He's only a year left on his contract, was sent to us as surplus stock and the fans bloomin love him. It's not like Derby are tinpot either, he'll have noticed the crowds! I'm more than hopeful as players tend to get what they want in these scenarios and in Ebou's case, I believe he wants to play for Derby. B4’s Sister, angieram, Caerphilly Ram and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellafella Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 On 16/04/2024 at 10:06, Crewton said: Well, to Cardiff fans, he's their "Sonny Bradley". Let's hope their manager isn't their "Paul Warne" eh? 😉 https://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=237629 Their “one-eyed” view of the football world is fascinating. And great how they classify the pyramid and put Derby among “the likes of….”. Ebou is clearly Championship level. I remember lots of “football” fans casting question marks over John Eustace in similar vein. Crewton and Premier ram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambam Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 It’s not Derby are a bigger club or anything, is it? 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maydrakin Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 On 15/04/2024 at 19:42, ramsbottom said: I’d say he had less. Ebou is good on the ball and can play an accurate pass more than 15 yards. Darryl was never one for spraying balls about I think you’re doing Darryl Powell a disservice. In his one season as a division 2 player for us he was dominating the midfield with van der Laan. You’re comparing division 3 Ebou to division 1 Darryl. In division 3, Powell would have been a huge standout. Crewton and NG2Ram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramsbottom Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 5 hours ago, maydrakin said: I think you’re doing Darryl Powell a disservice. In his one season as a division 2 player for us he was dominating the midfield with van der Laan. You’re comparing division 3 Ebou to division 1 Darryl. In division 3, Powell would have been a huge standout. Don't get me wrong, I loved the Football Genius, but I'd say Ebou is, technique wise, a better player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maydrakin Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 2 hours ago, ramsbottom said: Don't get me wrong, I loved the Football Genius, but I'd say Ebou is, technique wise, a better player Understood - all I am saying is that the higher level you play at, the harder it is to look like quality. I’m just saying if Ebou was playing against the quality that DPFG was playing against, his technique would not appear as good. I’d wager the worst Derby player you have seen would be virtually impossible to dispossess by us mere mortals… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramsbottom Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 7 minutes ago, maydrakin said: I’d wager the worst Derby player you have seen would be virtually impossible to dispossess by us mere mortals… Oh I don’t know about that. I reckon I’d have a good shout at keeping Mikel Beck in my pocket. And I was never a centre back 😂 Ramrob, Taribo, maydrakin and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oodledoodle Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 (edited) On 16/04/2024 at 10:25, Alty_Ram said: Regardless of which division we're in, if we have a situation where Adams was our least accomplished pure footballing midfielder then it's not looking too shabby is it ? We've been crying out for some bite and physicality for years now and now some folks are worried that our defensive midfield specialist isn't also some creative genius too? It's all about a blend surely. The creative players can only flourish if we have a foothold in the game and are winning a decent proportion of midfield duels. Warne might not exactly be an advocate of total passing football but he knows that crosses don't get crossed and through balls don't get threaded through if you can't get the ball. Reminds me of Daryl Powell. Not the most gifted footballer, but absolutely essential in how that team worked. Also he's a football genius. Edit - I can see others have already made the comparison. Edited April 19 by oodledoodle Crewton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram59 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 4 hours ago, maydrakin said: I’d wager the worst Derby player you have seen would be virtually impossible to dispossess by us mere mortals… I disagree, my claim to fame a couple of years back, was to take the ball off Lee Carsley in a charity walking football tournament in Birmingham. Maybe, I'm not a mere mortal.😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R@M Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 6 hours ago, maydrakin said: Understood - all I am saying is that the higher level you play at, the harder it is to look like quality. I’m just saying if Ebou was playing against the quality that DPFG was playing against, his technique would not appear as good. I’d wager the worst Derby player you have seen would be virtually impossible to dispossess by us mere mortals… Played a few matches in a recreational team quite a few years back with about 5 ex Derby players, I was in awe and the striking/leaping/timing and awareness was incredible. Carl Sagan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram1988 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 We want Ebou. Ebou wants to be at Derby. Let's hope Cardiff do the right thing... DiggerB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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