trappatoni Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 3 minutes ago, Rich84 said: C. Typically require a loan fee.... I think it's more A and B - if Burton Albion can afford the loan fee for a Prem academy striker then we can. Look at transfermarkt and the loans other league 1 sides have - we've really failed to use the loan market in tne way other teams have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 8 minutes ago, Rich84 said: C. Typically require a loan fee.... D. He breaks them. DavesaRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trappatoni Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 46 minutes ago, Mick Brolly said: I've heard him take responsibility in many of his after match interviews When has he said tactically he got it wrong? 1 hour ago, Tamworthram said: I’m pretty sure that’s not true and, perhaps not often enough, he’s accepted he’s at fault sometimes in his post match interviews. When ? What faults has he admitted to ? Im not talking about some vague collective responsibility line - I'm talking about analysing a poor performance in terms other than blaming the players for being below par. RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich84 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 7 minutes ago, trappatoni said: I think it's more A and B - if Burton Albion can afford the loan fee for a Prem academy striker then we can. Look at transfermarkt and the loans other league 1 sides have - we've really failed to use the loan market in tne way other teams have. Have you missed the >150 posts in countless threads discussing the financial restrictions we are under to meet the agreed business plan, no way would we want to spunk the last pennies in the pot on a loan unless it was the only option, not saying it won't happen, but doubt it is the 1st choice option. I doubt anyone else other than Reading or Wigan have similar concerns, so for Burton, if their owners want to spend they can... FlyBritishMidland 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 (edited) 21 minutes ago, trappatoni said: When has he said tactically he got it wrong? When ? What faults has he admitted to ? Im not talking about some vague collective responsibility line - I'm talking about analysing a poor performance in terms other than blaming the players for being below par. I’m not going to listen again to all of his post match interviews but I’m pretty sure, on occasions (as I say, probably not often enough) he has said “that was on me” or words to that effect. Also, in the interest of balance, have you ever heard him take credit for a win? Edited January 30 by Tamworthram FlyBritishMidland and Premier ram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 28 minutes ago, trappatoni said: When has he said tactically he got it wrong? When ? What faults has he admitted to ? Im not talking about some vague collective responsibility line - I'm talking about analysing a poor performance in terms other than blaming the players for being below par. How often have you heard any manager say they got it tactically wrong? Rarely I’d suggest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 42 minutes ago, trappatoni said: I think it's more A and B - if Burton Albion can afford the loan fee for a Prem academy striker then we can. Look at transfermarkt and the loans other league 1 sides have - we've really failed to use the loan market in tne way other teams have. That forward Burton signed has only scored 1 goal more than Brown at U21 level this season and that's in a side which scored 10 past Sunderland as well as 5 against both Sunderland and Blackburn. We're looking for a better forward than who Burton target. Caerphilly Ram and FlyBritishMidland 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Brolly Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 hour ago, trappatoni said: When has he said tactically he got it wrong? When ? What faults has he admitted to ? Im not talking about some vague collective responsibility line - I'm talking about analysing a poor performance in terms other than blaming the players for being below par. That's fine just carry on with your one sided agenda/argument Premier ram and Tamworthram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trappatoni Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 On 30/01/2024 at 13:28, Rich84 said: Have you missed the >150 posts in countless threads discussing the financial restrictions we are under to meet the agreed business plan, no way would we want to spunk the last pennies in the pot on a loan unless it was the only option, not saying it won't happen, but doubt it is the 1st choice option. I doubt anyone else other than Reading or Wigan have similar concerns, so for Burton, if their owners want to spend they can... People need to stop blaming finances. However much money we have we have chosen to spend it one way rather than another. The wages spent on some of our ageing signings who have barely contributed could have gone on loans. We are the outlier in not doing that. Ghost of Clough, Chris_Martin and RoyMac5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trappatoni Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 On 30/01/2024 at 13:50, Tamworthram said: How often have you heard any manager say they got it tactically wrong? Rarely I’d suggest. Neither do I hear many managers say they were carrying too many players, too many were losing individual battles, too many weren't doing the basics as often as Warne says these things. It's the same with his repeated mantra that players pick the side with their performances - to an extent of course that is true but also good managers get the best out of players. Cashin was an example early season - played a formation where he was getting isolated out wide - since we've returned to a 4 he's been great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 27 minutes ago, trappatoni said: Neither do I hear many managers say they were carrying too many players, too many were losing individual battles, too many weren't doing the basics as often as Warne says these things. It's the same with his repeated mantra that players pick the side with their performances - to an extent of course that is true but also good managers get the best out of players. Cashin was an example early season - played a formation where he was getting isolated out wide - since we've returned to a 4 he's been great. I don't agree with your first comment about other managers not saying they were losing too many individual battles or didn't get the basics right. Generally speaking, IMO, nearly all managers real out the same reasons why games were lost: "we didn't move the ball fast enough", "we didn't win enough second balls", "we made a few sloppy mistakes", "we didn't create enough chances", "we didn't get the basics right", "we didn't win enough individual battles" etc. We'll have to agree to disagree but I don't think PW criticises the teams performance or fails to take responsibility noticeable more than other managers. jono 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Lampard and Morris - not doing anything these days. Or, if you prefer, how about McClaren and Simpson - Schteve won't be at United much longer. Come on, it would be more fun than what we're going through, eh? Dcfcsr92, NOTSA74, Chris_Martin and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 I’d give a lung to have either of those two over what we have now. beardyjim and Eaststander7 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcfcsr92 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 9 minutes ago, IslandExile said: Lampard and Morris - not doing anything these days. Or, if you prefer, how about McClaren and Simpson - Schteve won't be at United much longer. Come on, it would be more fun than what we're going through, eh? "We are winning games and warnes a expert of getting teams out the league!" Has as much pulling power as a sloth on sleeping tablets! This is the window where we had to give him the chance 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eaststander7 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 On 02/02/2024 at 00:44, Ambitious said: I’d give a lung to have either of those two over what we have now. Suppose it will be on quiet on here tonight? 🤫 Mick Brolly, andyburton72, Dom Brady and 4 others 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 13 minutes ago, Eaststander7 said: Suppose it will be on quiet on here tonight? 🤫 Thanks, I wondered where this was. Dropped down a bit after all the transfer stuff. Three in midfield makes Bird look decent, who'd a thunk it ay Paul? 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eaststander7 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said: Thanks, I wondered where this was. Dropped down a bit after all the transfer stuff. Three in midfield makes Bird look decent, who'd a thunk it ay Paul? 😄 Second in the league 4 points off top with a game in hand Cheers 🍺 Comrade 86 and Wolfie20 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 2 minutes ago, Eaststander7 said: Second in the league 4 points off top with a game in hand Cheers Yeah Derby are great. 🍺 This is a thread about Warne. 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 3 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Yeah Derby are great. 🍺 This is a thread about Warne. 👍 Glad you used the 'thumbs up' emoticon after mentioning Warne. ramit, Mick Brolly, Wolfie20 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramit Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 7 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: Yeah Derby are great. 🍺 This is a thread about Warne. 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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