Warne: what would it take?

[Gerry Daly]

He did. One day very soon he will get the full Phil Brown treatment

[Tyler Durden]

Just now, Leeds Ram said:

Didn't he say on radio derby on Tuesday post blackpool that if we'd played like that at home at half-time we'd have been boo'd off the pitch?

I don't know, you're asking me? After you made the assertion?

So you don't actually know then.

[NOTSA74]

14 minutes ago, Gerry Daly said:

Or what about option 3, appoint Warnock or someone like him -  a 'Jim Smith' type, been there, done it older manager - but also appoint his potential successor to work alongside him as an assistant. Someone like Curtis Davies maybe? I could see Cutis learning the ropes alongside alongside someone like that for a season or so and then taking us to the next level 

Might be expensive to buy Curtis out of his contract.

I'd be interested to see if Craig Short woud consider returning in some capacity. He's spent a lot of time at Derby over the last ten years and knows what a top class academy looks like. He's also doing well as first team coach of Oxford so I'd imagine has a good understanding of this division.

[Leeds Ram]

3 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said:

I don't know, you're asking me? After you made the assertion?

So you don't actually know then.

It's a common technique to phrase something obvious as a question to highlight someone's selective memory. Stop being so pedantic and try to actually engage substantively. 

[Tyler Durden]

5 minutes ago, Leeds Ram said:

It's a common technique to phrase something obvious as a question to highlight someone's selective memory. Stop being so pedantic and try to actually engage substantively. 

I'm merely highlighting the fact that you are critical of someone whom doesn't have the answers prepared in a post match interview but then you yourself make statements that you are unable to substantiate and get prickly when you are called out.

Edited October 8, 2023 by Tyler Durden

[Leeds Ram]

Just now, Tyler Durden said:

I'm merely highlighting the fact that you are critical of someone whom doesn't have the answers prepared in a post match interview but then you yourself make statements that you yourself are unable to substantiate and get prickly when you are called out.

As I've said in the other thread, the context is substantially different which i think you well know. I don't mind having discussions where I have to expand and substantiate my opinion, but I do mind the kind of nit-picking that you seem to increasingly specialise in on the forum when you're not telling others how to post. 

[Tyler Durden]

1 minute ago, Leeds Ram said:

As I've said in the other thread, the context is substantially different which i think you well know. I don't mind having discussions where I have to expand and substantiate my opinion, but I do mind the kind of nit-picking that you seem to increasingly specialise in on the forum when you're not telling others how to post. 

Aha ok sorry - let me know in advance what topics you would like to discuss so we can avoid this going forward.

Seems like your default position is someone is being pedantic when basically you've lost whatever argument you were putting forward in the first place. 

[Leeds Ram]

1 minute ago, Tyler Durden said:

Aha ok sorry - let me know in advance what topics you would like to discuss so we can avoid this going forward.

Seems like your default position is someone is being pedantic when basically you've lost whatever argument you were putting forward in the first place. 

Putting you on my ignore list as I think it's best for both of us. 

[Tyler Durden]

1 minute ago, Leeds Ram said:

Putting you on my ignore list as I think it's best for both of us. 

Why would you even tell me that?

[Jimbo Ram]

3 hours ago, TomTom92 said:

Hate to sound like a spoilt brat, but if what you say is correct about 4 years come what may then DC needs to get in the real world. 
 
Managers don’t last that long these days unless genuine success is being had. Plus as others have noted, the atmosphere is turning sour, we can’t have this for another 2 years. 
 
Think DC needs to get a proper director of football in. However for the short term let’s get Warne out and get Warnock in.

Am I the only person that wouldn’t want Warnock? I want a younger, ambitious manager like the Ipswich Manager….or the chap at Hull maybe 🫣

[Leeds Ram]

Just now, Jimbo Ram said:

Am I the only person that wouldn’t want Warnock? I want a younger, ambitious manager like the Ipswich Manager….or the chap at Hull maybe 🫣

You're not the only one as he wouldn't be my choice either tbh. I'm leaning towards a younger more ambitious manager who could potentially take us to the promised land of the premier league. 

[TomTom92]

Just now, Jimbo Ram said:

Am I the only person that wouldn’t want Warnock? I want a younger, ambitious manager like the Ipswich Manager….or the chap at Hull maybe 🫣

I’m not a Rosenior fan to be fair, didn’t hate him either though. 

I’m happy to go down the young manager route now. Just got to make sure we pick the right one.

[Guest]

Young, ambitious manager would look at our squad now and be saying to DC 'Yeah OK great club, facilities etc but how much budget do I have to overhaul the age and skills profile of this team'. Playing rosenior football with this team would lead to catastrophic errors.

Although I wasn't overly critical of the recruitment in the summer, in fact I thought it to be OK other than the lack of a striker, you look at it now and think if the current inconsistencies continue and we are in L1 next summer, we are saddled with a lot of players at the very back end of the prime being kind. Bird will go, Sibley just isn't going to be the player we hoped and I doubt the academy is bearing fruit to the extent we want or need it to so quickly. This ultimately leaves the goodwill of the owner to complete overhaul the squad yet again. I don't wish to understate the problems before DC took charge but in the here and now, its not a hugely rosey outlook in the short term. Even promotion wouldn't altogether negate the issues with the squad

Edited October 8, 2023 by Sheepinthedales
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[RoyMac5]

46 minutes ago, alram said:

It’s not about getting a long term manager it’s about having a long term plan for the club

 

when warne is inevitably sacked the club will need another rebuild. A club with a plan will change the manager and not much else would need to be changed

 

i can’t give you a name of who the answer is, I haven’t done enough research but I can tell you there is dozens of quality coaches in youth football than are dying to manage a club like ours and look at where the two managers top of the championship have come from

 

as a club we’ve gotta take risks on managers now because we aren’t in a position to attract proven quality, you get cast offs in league one.

Yep, that's where the stabilty is important. Not the managers but the structure - where is it with the first team?

[Jimbo Ram]

10 minutes ago, Sheepinthedales said:

Young, ambitious manager would look at our squad now and be saying to DC 'Yeah OK great club, facilities etc but how much budget do I have to overhaul the age and skills profile of this team'. Playing rosenior football with this team would lead to catastrophic errors

Any new manager will have to go with what he has got…until January at least. I think Warne will be given until Christmas and see how things stand then.

[MackworthRamIsGod]

3 hours ago, Eaststander7 said:

I want some of what you’re smoking. You are completely deluded 

Another poster who points their finger and tells other posters what they are...without offering anything constructive.

Did you watch the game yesterday, or was you fortunate enough to accidently glue your eyes shut before kick off?

I would say people like Tom and I want the best for this football club and wish Warne, I only see failure.

 

[Chester40]

3 hours ago, oodledoodle said:

You know a manager is doing well when the only argument people have for not getting rid is "we can't afford to".

Why don't you start a thread asking that very question?

 

 

Ohhhh. Hang on somebody already did.  And a few hardy fans bothered to explain why they felt that wasn't true, knowing it was pointless because a few posters are just repeating themselves endlessly. 

[HorsforthRam]

Reports that Wayne Rooney is joining Birmingham….

[Chester40]

1 hour ago, Leeds Ram said:

Didn't he say on radio derby on Tuesday post blackpool that if we'd played like that at home at half-time we'd have been boo'd off the pitch?

He did.

I didn't think it wasn't necessarily a dig though. He was saying that sitting in, trying to be counter attacking isn't going to go down well at home.

What's wrong with that? It's his opinion and probably correct...at home you're expected to be on the front foot.

[May Contain Nuts]

1 hour ago, Leeds Ram said:

As I've said in the other thread, the context is substantially different which i think you well know. I don't mind having discussions where I have to expand and substantiate my opinion, but I do mind the kind of nit-picking that you seem to increasingly specialise in on the forum when you're not telling others how to post. 

Don't be silly.

Tyler would never tell others how to post or attempt to steer the conversation, he's not a moderator.