Archied Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 On 05/01/2024 at 13:42, Jimbo Ram said: You have to be corrupt to get honours these days… These days 🤷🏻♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Just now, Archied said: These days 🤷🏻♂️ Things have got much, much worse Archied… therealhantsram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 On 05/01/2024 at 12:42, Wignall12 said: A certain young Steve Gerrard had a lot of injury problems in his formative years , how did he turn out ? Disappointed with England, slipped Liverpool out of a title, managed Rangers before realising management wasn't his thing and moving to Saudi. And one penalty shootout where the Liverpool keeper was off his line every time and not called for it (that Liverpool fans never shut up about). But he did play a fair number of games I guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampant Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 TJJ's first touch and ability to get a shot away under pressure is stunning. He's done it two or three times now and it's not something you see at this level. He looks sensational imo. therealhantsram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 15 minutes ago, Rampant said: TJJ's first touch and ability to get a shot away under pressure is stunning. He's done it two or three times now and it's not something you see at this level. He looks sensational imo. A good prospect but sensational maybe a slight exaggeration 🤔 rammieib and Archied 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIMBAUD Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 If he can stay fit he would be a cracking signing. Skill level definitely way beyond L1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaltRam Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 1 hour ago, Jimbo Ram said: Things have got much, much worse Archied… b*******. It's always been old boys and new money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wignall12 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 53 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: Disappointed with England, slipped Liverpool out of a title, managed Rangers before realising management wasn't his thing and moving to Saudi. And one penalty shootout where the Liverpool keeper was off his line every time and not called for it (that Liverpool fans never shut up about). But he did play a fair number of games I guess? Yes he played a fair few games which was kind of my point ....not the other stuff ! RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 5 minutes ago, Wignall12 said: Yes he played a fair few games which was kind of my point ....not the other stuff ! I was on a wind up to be fair (I'm blaming whisky) Steven Gerrard was a good player for a good number of years. Wignall12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Warne says it's almost sorted that we'll extend the loan till the end of the season: https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/derby-county-paul-warne-latest-9028056 Apparently we made an offer and Arsenal countered, but both parties are close. I believe TJJ's contract is up at the end of the season and the article then says, once we get to May (presuming the lad has stayed fit) it will be to Warne to convince him to stay (hoping he's done well). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 On 05/01/2024 at 12:42, Wignall12 said: A certain young Steve Gerrard had a lot of injury problems in his formative years , how did he turn out ? John-Jules is 22 and had made 73 first team appearances. At the same age, Gerrard had made 179 first team appearances, helped Liverpool win the FA Cup, League Cup, Charity Shield, UEFA Cup and the UEFA Super Cup. He made 31 appearances in the 99/00 season - the fewest he made between 19 and 22. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Returning ram Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 23 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: John-Jules is 22 and had made 73 first team appearances. At the same age, Gerrard had made 179 first team appearances, helped Liverpool win the FA Cup, League Cup, Charity Shield, UEFA Cup and the UEFA Super Cup. He made 31 appearances in the 99/00 season - the fewest he made between 19 and 22. Gerrard had back problems at an early age and also several operations on his groin, he was also one of the worlds best players at the time. Yes, if you're judging players just by stats, it's a world of difference, however the point in the post is a relevant one, you can still have a successful career despite early injuries. However I expect that the medical team would be best people to make that judgment based upon their experience. Comrade 86 and Wignall12 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wignall12 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 16 minutes ago, Returning ram said: Gerrard had back problems at an early age and also several operations on his groin, he was also one of the worlds best players at the time. Yes, if you're judging players just by stats, it's a world of difference, however the point in the post is a relevant one, you can still have a successful career despite early injuries. However I expect that the medical team would be best people to make that judgment based upon their experience. (In a Liverpool accent)....... "Exactly! " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Returning ram said: Gerrard had back problems at an early age and also several operations on his groin, he was also one of the worlds best players at the time. Yes, if you're judging players just by stats, it's a world of difference, however the point in the post is a relevant one, you can still have a successful career despite early injuries. However I expect that the medical team would be best people to make that judgment based upon their experience. The most John-Jules has played in a season is 23 games, back in 2021. Since then, he's managed 13, 21, and currently 11. In Gerrard's debut season (aged 18), he made just 13 appearances (debut in November) but never missed more than 3 games in a row. The following season, he made 31 appearances, with a 4 game spell out of the team, 2 games out at the end of the season and a couple of single games scattered throughout. In 00/01 (aged 20), he made 50 appearances, never missing more than 1 game in a row. The year after, it was another 45 appearances, with a 3 game spell out injured. In 02/23 (aged 22), he featured 54 times, missing 3 league games in total due to injuries. Gerrard's injury 'troubles' are in no way comparable to John-Jules' Edited January 12 by Ghost of Clough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richinspain Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 3 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: The most John-Jules has played in a season is 23 games, back in 2021. Since then, he's managed 13, 21, and currently 11. In Gerrard's debut season (aged 18), he made just 13 appearances (debut in November) but never missed more than 3 games in a row. The following season, he made 31 appearances, with a 4 game spell out of the team, 2 games out at the end of the season and a couple of single games scattered throughout. In 00/01 (aged 20), he made 50 appearances, never missing more than 1 game in a row. The year after, it was another 45 appearances, with a 3 game spell out injured. In 02/23 (aged 22), he featured 54 times, missing 3 league games in total due to injuries. Gerrard's injury 'troubles' are in no way comparable to Gerrard's. Or indeed to John-Jules' 😉 Comrade 86 and Ghost of Clough 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry Daly Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 3 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: The most John-Jules has played in a season is 23 games, back in 2021. Since then, he's managed 13, 21, and currently 11. In Gerrard's debut season (aged 18), he made just 13 appearances (debut in November) but never missed more than 3 games in a row. The following season, he made 31 appearances, with a 4 game spell out of the team, 2 games out at the end of the season and a couple of single games scattered throughout. In 00/01 (aged 20), he made 50 appearances, never missing more than 1 game in a row. The year after, it was another 45 appearances, with a 3 game spell out injured. In 02/23 (aged 22), he featured 54 times, missing 3 league games in total due to injuries. Gerrard's injury 'troubles' are in no way comparable to Gerrard's. Fancy going to all that trouble ferreting out those facts then making that blunder at the end lol Comrade 86 and Ghost of Clough 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireRam Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 6 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Gerrard's injury 'troubles' are in no way comparable to Gerrard's. JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta and Comrade 86 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 1 minute ago, richinspain said: Or indeed to John-Jules' 😉 Did you have to correct it? I was quite enjoying our resident stato's tying themselves in knots over such a pointless argument... richinspain 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 4 minutes ago, richinspain said: Or indeed to John-Jules' 😉 4 minutes ago, Gerry Daly said: Fancy going to all that trouble ferreting out those facts then making that blunder at the end lol 2 minutes ago, YorkshireRam said: Comrade 86 and richinspain 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuitYourJibbaJivin Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 So after all that back and forth what have we actually learnt? Gerrard - good JJ - bad?! Ghost of Clough 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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