Sparkle Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 16 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said: It was all structured with installments and we are fully paid up on any installments we owed, we cleared out outstanding balances from admin when Clowes took over. I think we were up to date with instalments but don’t pay future ones owed until they are due Comrade 86 and JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Has he signed yet ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 I think there might be more than one reason that TJJ is being so 'carefully managed'. I hope I'm right. I also hope that we get him signed up ASAP. He's got bags of potential, but that will obviously need weighing against his injury record and I'd be wanting specialists to be having a long look at him to see whether his issues are chronic, or now behind him, before making any longer term commitment. If he is over his woes though, it's a big yes from me. hintonsboots and Premier ram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VulcanRam Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Not sure I'd give him a contract until he can play 90 minutes regularly. Loan to the end of the season with a view to a permanent would be ideal, then get him on the pitch more to see what he can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richinspain Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 1 minute ago, VulcanRam said: Not sure I'd give him a contract until he can play 90 minutes regularly. Loan to the end of the season with a view to a permanent would be ideal, then get him on the pitch more to see what he can do. I keep seeing that he is incapable of playing 90 minutes, but has it actually been stated by someone at the club? Premier ram, Comrade 86 and Carl Sagan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 16 hours ago, richinspain said: I keep seeing that he is incapable of playing 90 minutes, but has it actually been stated by someone at the club? Nope - they said that they thought they’d got to the bottom of his injury issues and were therefore being extra cautious with him to make sure he didn’t suffer a relapse - though that doesn’t fit the narrative of some on here…. Caerphilly Ram, richinspain and Comrade 86 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VulcanRam Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 18 hours ago, richinspain said: I keep seeing that he is incapable of playing 90 minutes, but has it actually been stated by someone at the club? No, but nobody is officially going to say we've got a player who can't play a full game. The evidence is right in front of us. Look at his injury record, both before he joined us and since he joined us, it's poor. As @Gaspodesays, we hope we have him sorted but are being extra cautious because of his injury issues in the hope he doesn't suffer a relapse. That tells you that we've got a player whose injury record worries our coaches. Since he's returned to action with us he's been used sparingly. We don't know whether he can do three games of 90 minutes in a week (or even one) and that's my point - until we do, and until we can be as sure as we can we've got a player who can fully contribute, we shouldn't be offering him a contract. We've got the rest of the season hopefully with him to put that theory to the test, but do we want to risk offering 18 months (for example) to a player whose previous record indicates he might spend a considerable chunk of that out of action? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 6 minutes ago, VulcanRam said: ......The evidence is right in front of us. Look at his injury record, both before he joined us and since he joined us, it's poor. As @Gaspodesays, we hope we have him sorted but are being extra cautious because of his injury issues in the hope he doesn't suffer a relapse. That tells you that we've got a player whose injury record worries our coaches...... Or it tells you that they want to do the right thing by the player and make sure that he's given the best possible chance to fully recover and have a long career in the game...... Caerphilly Ram and bimmerman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wignall12 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 2 hours ago, Gaspode said: Nope - they said that they thought they’d got to the bottom of his injury issues and were therefore being extra cautious with him to make sure he didn’t suffer a relapse - though that doesn’t fit the narrative of some on here…. The narrative of some on here doesn't fit a lot of things ! Gaspode 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 We should consider signing TJJ as a super-sub if contract terms and physical tests are favorable. Unfortunately, it won't solve the problem that we urgently need another striker. If something happens to Collins, we'll be screwed and I believe everyone is aware of that. As for TJJ, he appears to be physically raw and weak, yet his first touch and shot are certainly something to build on. Ted McMinn Football Genius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VulcanRam Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 2 hours ago, Gaspode said: Or it tells you that they want to do the right thing by the player and make sure that he's given the best possible chance to fully recover and have a long career in the game...... Agreed, both are correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 10 hours ago, Dimmu said: We should consider signing TJJ as a super-sub if contract terms and physical tests are favorable. Unfortunately, it won't solve the problem that we urgently need another striker. If something happens to Collins, we'll be screwed and I believe everyone is aware of that. As for TJJ, he appears to be physically raw and weak, yet his first touch and shot are certainly something to build on. Hummm. I don’t see him as weak. He gave as good as he got v Peterborough. Not a granite brick like Cash but no featherweight. But yes his touch is a cut above. There were a couple of passages on the left close to the bye line where the control and short pass were just plain class Premier ram and Carl Sagan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 On 03/01/2024 at 09:22, VulcanRam said: No, but nobody is officially going to say we've got a player who can't play a full game. The evidence is right in front of us. Look at his injury record, both before he joined us and since he joined us, it's poor. As @Gaspodesays, we hope we have him sorted but are being extra cautious because of his injury issues in the hope he doesn't suffer a relapse. That tells you that we've got a player whose injury record worries our coaches. Since he's returned to action with us he's been used sparingly. We don't know whether he can do three games of 90 minutes in a week (or even one) and that's my point - until we do, and until we can be as sure as we can we've got a player who can fully contribute, we shouldn't be offering him a contract. We've got the rest of the season hopefully with him to put that theory to the test, but do we want to risk offering 18 months (for example) to a player whose previous record indicates he might spend a considerable chunk of that out of action? Hear what you're saying Vulcan, but I'm not sure too many are advocating 18 month contracts. I'd just like to see him stay to the end of the season with an option on the table if the lad if he does well and proves his fitness, which I think he will. Seems like a low-risk play to me with a lot of potential upside. I think the lad looks like a baller tbh. Also, my hunch is that even if he does extend, PW will still be looking to bring in A.N.Other. VulcanRam and jono 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbobram Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Can’t believe some of you are worrying about signing a young player with potential because of some injury risks. We have signed a bunch of old crocks with poor injury records and no selll on value. id rather sign a young player with injury risks than more old players with injury risks. Talent and potential can equal big money in the future Caerphilly Ram, Eoghan1884, Carnero and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wignall12 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 59 minutes ago, jimbobram said: Can’t believe some of you are worrying about signing a young player with potential because of some injury risks. We have signed a bunch of old crocks with poor injury records and no selll on value. id rather sign a young player with injury risks than more old players with injury risks. Talent and potential can equal big money in the future A certain young Steve Gerrard had a lot of injury problems in his formative years , how did he turn out ? Dean (hick) Saunders 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 1 hour ago, jimbobram said: Can’t believe some of you are worrying about signing a young player with potential because of some injury risks. We have signed a bunch of old crocks with poor injury records and no selll on value. id rather sign a young player with injury risks than more old players with injury risks. Talent and potential can equal big money in the future Yep, sell on value very important 😊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 3 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: Yep, sell on value very important 😊 It like an episode of The Waltons on here. Jimbob, Jimbo….. norwichram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 6 minutes ago, hintonsboots said: It like an episode of The Waltons on here. Jimbob, Jimbo….. De de de de de deeere….. de de de de de de deeere…… hintonsboots and norwichram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macintosh Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 53 minutes ago, Wignall12 said: A certain young Steve Gerrard had a lot of injury problems in his formative years , how did he turn out ? He became a crap manager just about to get sacked again, impossible to understand with his accent, a thug for attacking the DJ in a Southport pub, and gave us his cousin, Bobby Duncan, the least said about him, the better. He got an MBE for that. ariotofmyown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 1 minute ago, Macintosh said: He became a crap manager just about to get sacked again, impossible to understand with his accent, a thug for attacking the DJ in a Southport pub, and gave us his cousin, Bobby Duncan, the least said about him, the better. He got an MBE for that. You have to be corrupt to get honours these days… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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