Mick Harford Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 Morecombe have also been done for this season, all but ending their play-off hopes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 2 hours ago, Mick Harford said: Morecombe have also been done for this season, all but ending their play-off hopes. My biggest take from that is that EFL costs to come to this decision is in excess of £300k. I take it all the tea and biscuits came from a very decent farm shop, and not off the shelf at Morrisons! 😲 RadioactiveWaste and TigerTedd 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomBustler1884 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 How the hell has this been normalised? Carl Sagan, angieram and MaltRam 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 And what sort of deterrent is minus 2? They’ll make that up in the first game. That’s just equivalent to any game where they stupidly let in an equaliser in the last minute. We effectively got a minus two punishment in our last game for the crime of being a bit crap. They secured promotion and the riches that comes with through their breaches. It’s like saying they’re going to deter diving by handing out yellow cards, and then that becomes a slap on the wrist. send them off, you’ll soon see it stop. And demote teams that break the rules, you’ll soon see it stop. (although that is a bit like advocating the death penalty for shoplifting. Maybe I’m a tyrant. I hope not.) Bessie1, Tamworthram and Premier ram 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram59 Posted April 12 Author Share Posted April 12 If Sheff Utd are getting points deducted on their return to the EFL, how come the likes of QPR, Bournemouth, etc didn't get points deductions for when they overspent to get into the Premier? Carl Sagan, Patrick Rams, Fla Ram and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 58 minutes ago, ram59 said: If Sheff Utd are getting points deducted on their return to the EFL, how come the likes of QPR, Bournemouth, etc didn't get points deductions for when they overspent to get into the Premier? Because the EFL literally make rules up as they go along? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 As far as I am concerned as long as a club remains solvent .. either from simple trading profit or by virtue of an owner with deep pockets, I don’t care. The sporting and industrial model just doesn’t work. While there are zillionaire hobbyists or daft gamblers or cowboys mortgaging institutions we are in a mess (Ownership of a football club isn’t really ownership, it never has been, never will be. They think they own them because of a few pieces of paper, in reality they are custodians (with a key to the stationary cupboard ) of something that only really belongs to the fans Carl Sagan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 1 hour ago, jono said: As far as I am concerned as long as a club remains solvent .. either from simple trading profit or by virtue of an owner with deep pockets, I don’t care. The sporting and industrial model just doesn’t work. While there are zillionaire hobbyists or daft gamblers or cowboys mortgaging institutions we are in a mess (Ownership of a football club isn’t really ownership, it never has been, never will be. They think they own them because of a few pieces of paper, in reality they are custodians (with a key to the stationary cupboard ) of something that only really belongs to the fans But that’s exactly why there needs to be some rules in place. Without the rules, the owners don’t know this, think they can do what they want, and then just f*** up the club that isn’t their’s. angieram and jono 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JfR Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 I find this especially amusing considering that the EFL's "expert witness" in their case against us for our stadium sale had claimed to have conducted a "stadium valuation" for Chelsea that turned out to have been an assessment of the "capital values of hotel sites" at Chelsea, so the asset they're selling here could very well have been valued by the EFL's witness against us. Funny how things seem to go in circles. Crewton and RadioactiveWaste 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Meanwhile, the EFL tried to impose a Premier-league-mandated points deduction on Leicester. Leicester said, hold on, there's nothing in your rules that allows you to do this, and took out an injunction to stop it. The EFL said, "oh yes of course you're right" and withdrew the deduction. My conclusion is that the EFL doesn't know its own rules and if we'd had the wherewithal to be able to contest their outrageous behaviour against us, we'd have won as well. EFL statement: Leicester Statement: angieram, MaltRam and RadioactiveWaste 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram59 Posted April 14 Author Share Posted April 14 I think that it's safe to say that the EFL, Middlesbrough and Wycombe all took advantage of Derby's delicate position. If we'd had a strong owner in place, they would have all been sent packing. Carl Sagan, GB SPORTS, RadioactiveWaste and 9 others 4 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 1 hour ago, Carl Sagan said: Leicester Statement: Quote Crewton, richinspain, Foreveram and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richinspain Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 I am 100% certain that had we not been in administration, had we not been being "run" by a group of men who knew nothing about actual football rules, had we not been threatened by a curly haired 🦨 and an 🚑🏃🏼♂️with claims for compensation that had no validity........, then we would have fought tooth and nail to be cleared of all points deductions and our good name restored. Well , that last phrase is possibly stretching it a bit. InstaRam and Reggie Greenwood 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 12 hours ago, richinspain said: I am 100% certain that had we not been in administration, had we not been being "run" by a group of men who knew nothing about actual football rules, had we not been threatened by a curly haired 🦨 and an 🚑🏃🏼♂️with claims for compensation that had no validity........, then we would have fought tooth and nail to be cleared of all points deductions and our good name restored. Well , that last phrase is possibly stretching it a bit. Wonder if we could sue on the basis charged under a false premise ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexxxxx Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 16 hours ago, Carl Sagan said: Meanwhile, the EFL tried to impose a Premier-league-mandated points deduction on Leicester. Leicester said, hold on, there's nothing in your rules that allows you to do this, and took out an injunction to stop it. The EFL said, "oh yes of course you're right" and withdrew the deduction. My conclusion is that the EFL doesn't know its own rules and if we'd had the wherewithal to be able to contest their outrageous behaviour against us, we'd have won as well. EFL statement: Leicester Statement: They just make it up as they go along. I don't support Leicester breaking the rules but it's just clear to me that EFL is run by a cabal of club directors and go after clubs base on what they feel is right. We need a regulator and proper process. Indyram, Carl Sagan, angieram and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 If Everton was a horse...you'd shoot it, If Everton was a car you'd send it to Albert Looms...crazy situation to be in 😬 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68835735 Dean (hick) Saunders and RadioactiveWaste 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JfR Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Over in the Netherlands, Vitesse have been deducted 18 points, and, with only four games to go, could very well end the season on -1 point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 6 hours ago, JfR said: Over in the Netherlands, Vitesse have been deducted 18 points, and, with only four games to go, could very well end the season on -1 point. Do you mean someone will finally beat out record? Ilkestonian, Dean (hick) Saunders and Crewton 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bessie1 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 21 hours ago, JfR said: Over in the Netherlands, Vitesse have been deducted 18 points, and, with only four games to go, could very well end the season on -1 point. Ah yes…. “Daar klampen wij ons aan vast en ganne we volle bak mee door” I’m sure we all concur - I couldn't have put it better myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Harford Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 Not a points deduction, but unsure where to put this Assume punishment will be a 47 minute transfer embargo or similar RadioactiveWaste, TigerTedd and InstaRam 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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