Local Radio being destroyed - no more Sportscene.

[RoyMac5]

If you don't watch tv media, well then don't buy a licence you don't have to.

"A TV Licence covers you to:

watch or record TV on any channel via any TV service (e.g. Sky, Virgin, Freeview, Freesat)

watch live on streaming services (e.g. ITV Hub, All 4, YouTube, Amazon Prime Video, Now, Sky Go)

use BBC iPlayer*.

This applies to any device, including a TV, computer, laptop, phone, tablet, games console or digital box.

You only need one TV Licence per household, even if you use more than one of the devices listed above. A TV Licence costs £159 for colour TV, and £53.50 for black and white."

I would like to see some costs for local radio as opposed to 'big' tv. 

As well as Radio 6 being saved, there was also BBC4 under threat and of course BBC 3 was once online/digital but now back on tv again. Things can be changed.

 

Edited November 1, 2022 by RoyMac5

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26 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said:

I didn't realise that under 35s called the shots?

That's not even close to what @Norman was saying, just that it's a rip off for under 35's as they don't consume much of the BBC content, which is pretty accurate.

[RoyMac5]

14 minutes ago, David said:

That's not even close to what @Norman was saying, just that it's a rip off for under 35's as they don't consume much of the BBC content, which is pretty accurate.

Okay. I don't use schools anyway more why should I pay? Didn't realise the I don't use it was a great arguement, but what else would @Normanlike rid of that he doesn't use?

Edited November 1, 2022 by RoyMac5

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1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said:

Okay. I don't use schools anyway more why should I pay? 

How much do you pay per year on schools?

[RoyMac5]

Just now, David said:

How much do you pay per year on schools?

No idea. How much does local radio cost? Oh and I don't use public transport and I could easily turn off the streetlight. Give us a while to think of some more.

Plus does he really speak for all the under 35s? When do those u35s start paying for their own streaming services btw?

[therealhantsram]

3 minutes ago, David said:

How much do you pay per year on schools?

Look on your council tax bill and it will tell you.

[RoyMac5]

4 minutes ago, therealhantsram said:

Look on your council tax bill and it will tell you.

Can't be bothered it was the point of considering not paying for things that aren't used. 

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12 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said:

No idea. How much does local radio cost? Oh and I don't use public transport and I could easily turn off the streetlight. Give us a while to think of some more.

Plus does he really speak for all the under 35s? When do those u35s start paying for their own streaming services btw?

Jeeez, now we're entering the ridiculous stage of the conversation. Your taxes cover a wide range of services, the TV licence money all goes to the BBC, even if you don't consume any BBC services at all.

All he has said is it's a rip off for under 35's, that's it, the stats are out there to back it up. The average age for BBC 1 and 2 viewers for example is over 60. Doesn't take much Googling.

The director general even admitted defeat in trying to attract the youth and gone back to trying to please their demographic.

[RoyMac5]

3 minutes ago, David said:

All he has said is it's a rip off for under 35's, that's it, the stats are out there to back it up. The average age for BBC 1 and 2 viewers for example is over 60. Doesn't take much Googling.

The director general even admitted defeat in trying to attract the youth and gone back to trying to please their demographic.

That is still the point - paying for services that you don't NOW use.

[CBRammette]

18 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said:

No idea. How much does local radio cost? Oh and I don't use public transport and I could easily turn off the streetlight. Give us a while to think of some more.

Plus does he really speak for all the under 35s? When do those u35s start paying for their own streaming services btw?

Love your last sentence. Would add to that the devices they watch/listen on

[SSD]

Radio Derby is the only BBC product I have any interest in. I wish I could just give the local radio station my TV licence money and give them the funding. Excellent coverage, the takeover reaction reduced me to tears driving home. I'm never going to receive that with a cross coverage with different teams.

Horrible decision. Yet they brought back bbc three to compete with all the trash on ITV2. 

[jimtastic56]

15 hours ago, RoyMac5 said:

? 

What will be next to go? 

Sky want to pay less money to the Championship and below as the viewing figures for those leagues has plummeted.It seems neutrals only want to watch the Prem. Why not reduce the £100 mill parachute money to relegated teams?

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1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said:

That is still the point - paying for services that you don't NOW use.

And if you say that council tax is a rip off, I don't think anyone would be challenging you on that.

What I would say is that as someone without children, I personally have no issues paying my council tax knowing that some of it goes towards education. Whilst I am no longer at school, that education is teaching kids that will go on to provide services that I would use, design, manufacturer, produce, open businesses that create jobs for maybe my wife.

That public transport I rarely use myself helps get those people to work, reduces pollution, traffic.

That £160 TV licence where 86% goes to the BBC, 14% admin costs for content I don't consume or get any real benefit from for me is a rip off, sorry if that upsets you in someway. Ideal world, I would like to see every household keep that £160 per year and transition fully to advertisements like ITV and C4 that produce just as good content, if not better for myself. 

For what it's worth, I also consume several pints a week, those pints in the pub are also a rip off when compared to prices in the supermarket.

[BathRam72]

I have not read the whole thread, so apologies if this has been mentioned.

I was listening to BBC Radio 5 on the way to work and they bought up the subject of BBC cuts. They mentioned that Local radio will only run for certain hours a day. (06.00 to 10.00) with certain programmes being culled from the broadcast. This will enable several cuts and job losses.

The other out of hours timeline will be filled by amalgamating broadcasts from one centre through all local radio stations.

 

My guess is they will all go in future apart from local news stations. which will broadcast hourly.

 

Aside from this I remember listening to Terry Wogan once who was broadcasting for 2 weeks from America. Talk about wasting license fees. Understandable if the programme was on TV but he might as well have been broadcasting from his shed. Saving money for the transport for him and his entourage. Hotels etc.

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5 minutes ago, BathRam72 said:

Aside from this I remember listening to Terry Wogan once who was broadcasting for 2 weeks from America. Talk about wasting license fees. Understandable if the programme was on TV but he might as well have been broadcasting from his shed. Saving money for the transport for him and his entourage. Hotels etc.

Wait for the World Cup when we see a team of pundits out in a Qatar studio outside the stadium, a job that couldn't possibly be done from a studio in London. 

[JoetheRam]

Consider not paying the fee every year because I think I don't use it (as an under 35) then remind myself there's at least 4 hours every week dedicated to this stupid third division club plus TMS, World Cup/Euros, MoTD, FA Cup...

For 43p a day I think it's good value and I can tolerate Lineker being "woke" and "socialist" on Twitter or something whilst earning 10% of what Ant or Dec do. Especially when I remember they employed rabid right wingers like David Dimbleby, him what did Mastermind, and Andrew Neil for about 150 years combined, and I didn't mind them.

 

Edited November 1, 2022 by JoetheRam

[Gaspode]

9 minutes ago, David said:

Wait for the World Cup when we see a team of pundits out in a Qatar studio outside the stadium, a job that couldn't possibly be done from a studio in London. 

The BBC News will almost certainly send a team of news presenters (i.e. auto-cue readers) out there as well - along with their own bunch of make-up artists, cameramen, sound engineers, lighting engineers, directors, gophers, etc.....

For many, many years, BBC Radio Derby would send their own reporter to the tennis at Wimbledon - I suspect the other local radio stations did similar - all to report via the radio on something with virtually no local connection and to do something that could have quite easily been covered by one reporter for the whole country.....East Midlands Today also send reporters to natioanl events  when there is no justification (other than as part of the 'send the staff on a jolly' approach to wasting money....)

It's frustrating to see them slash whole services when they plead poverty rather than try to work more efficiently - almost as if they're doing it to make a point rather than geunuuinly trying to save money....

[sawley_ram]

How long had Sportscene been going?

My childhood memories are full of Saturdays either at home or out walking in Derbyshire with Dad having one earphone in listening to the match (in fact I still have the same pocket radio and take it out). Now in my early 30s, I have it on most games if I'm not at PP and it's been the sound of our Satruday afternoon kitchen for years now. I now have a six-month-old and I wanted him to grow up listening to it, too! 

Unsure if I buck the trend, but I don't really do streaming -- I find it far easier just to flick the radio on without having to create an account for a radio station.

[therealhantsram]

32 minutes ago, David said:

Wait for the World Cup when we see a team of pundits out in a Qatar studio outside the stadium, a job that couldn't possibly be done from a studio in London. 

I wouldn't be so sure. All the Tokyo Olympics coverage was from Manchester for example. 

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14 minutes ago, therealhantsram said:

I wouldn't be so sure. All the Tokyo Olympics coverage was from Manchester for example. 

Wasn't that due to Covid restrictions?