The Sibley Enigma

[RoyMac5]

51 minutes ago, NorwichExile said:

I think 4-2-3-1 would be the obvious formation for this side, but we don't have a single right back (thanks EFL soft embargo)

We had one sitting on the bench last night. He is good enough in an experienced back 4, but Warne prefers to play someone who isn't a fullback. Similar to playing Sibley at LWB. I'm not sure what is going on there because neither were particularly good at their new positions. So, why?

Edited October 26, 2022 by RoyMac5

[Poynton ram]

Is it me or has anyone else noticed how often Sibbo flicks his hair? Noticed it during the Ipswich game and then again last night. Get the gel on Louis if you must and then leave the hair alone…..

[kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong]

4 hours ago, RoyMac5 said:

Didn't hear, who was the comment about, because it doesn't do them any favours.

Warney said that Sibley was one of the worst tacklers he had ever known.

Fair comment.

[littleover ram]

Rowett at Millwall was offering £450k for him when we were in admin. Is that a fair reflection of his value?

[Gee SCREAMER !!]

1 hour ago, littleover ram said:

Rowett at Millwall was offering £450k for him when we were in admin. Is that a fair reflection of his value?

I think it was 250k.  I'm worth more than that

[FlyBritishMidland]

Part of the problem with Sibley is the weight of expectation.  He had an immediate impact - a wonder goal on his first start in the last pre-lockdown game, then a hat-trick on the first game back.  In both of these there’s no pressure.  But because of that it becomes expected, and it’s not just Sibley it’s any young player who has the start he did.

Since then he suffered from not having a manager who trusts him.  Under WR and LR he was limited to being a bit-part player.  He had the odd 10 minute substitute appearance when we were losing so the expectation is he needs to change the game.  Or the odd start, again there’s excitement and expectation.  And because he hasn’t been trusted, he’s probably putting too much pressure on himself and trying too hard.

He’s had a few starts now and I hope PW keeps him in the team but in the midfield.  He almost needs to be told “unless you get injured, you’re playing the next 10 games”.  Give him confidence so that he knows he can afford to make a mistake.

[CBRammette]

He needs a song of his own to feel loved

[Anag Ram]

29 minutes ago, CBRammette said:

He needs a song of his own to feel loved

So all we need now is a melody to 

Louie we love your occasional brilliance but this is marred by inconsistency and occasional petulance.

[Gaspode]

32 minutes ago, CBRammette said:

He needs a song of his own to feel loved

 

Edited October 27, 2022 by Gaspode

[RoyMac5]

11 minutes ago, Anag Ram said:

So all we need now is a melody to 

Louie we love your occasional brilliance but this is marred by inconsistency and occasional petulance.

That could be a lot of talented footballers, especially young ones. A bit like when we had Klinkladze in the team, we need to be able to 'afford' to play them because of what they provide. Can you imagine Kinky as a LWB?! ?

[CBRammette]

1 hour ago, Anag Ram said:

So all we need now is a melody to 

Louie we love your occasional brilliance but this is marred by inconsistency and occasional petulance.

Definitely catchy! Think simple would be Sammy winnall song as just need his name instead. Would be miffed if new youngster got brilliant song on first appearance everyone instantly sings. 
 

alternatively anything catchy in Hair? Or adapt Hair Bear bunch theme

[angieram]

We're already singing him the "one of our own" song, and the "makes me happy song" (the one we used for Joe Ledley) for him. How many songs does he need? 

 

[Zag zig]

On 25/10/2022 at 23:26, Ghost of Clough said:

Yet only Chester made more successful tackles than him today. Doesn't bode well when "the worst tackler he's ever seen" is winning the ball back more than most others on the pitch.

Maybe the problem is putting an AM at LWB. ? 

This.

How many times does he ever get to play a sustained run of matches, as an attacking midfielder behind a front man or pairing? Don’t want to over defend him, he does always seem to be the fall guy when the team struggles though, when he’s often asked to play out of position and people wonder why he’s ineffective.

[CBRammette]

51 minutes ago, Zag zig said:

This.

How many times does he ever get to play a sustained run of matches, as an attacking midfielder behind a front man or pairing? Don’t want to over defend him, he does always seem to be the fall guy when the team struggles though, when he’s often asked to play out of position and people wonder why he’s ineffective.

Its not just him - seems like all managers shove those that come through the academy wherever they like so new additions can play in their favoured position 

[CBRammette]

10 hours ago, angieram said:

We're already singing him the "one of our own" song, and the "makes me happy song" (the one we used for Joe Ledley) for him. How many songs does he need? 

 

Never heard those sung to him Angie! Is that usually away?

[angieram]

27 minutes ago, CBRammette said:

Never heard those sung to him Angie! Is that usually away?

Yes, it's usually the 1884 lot, I think. They keep us going at away games and have a much broader repertoire than the South Stand!

[Gee SCREAMER !!]

Games at the Baseball Ground taught me that barracking the opposition players, particularly at throw ins and corners can be even more effective than singing about your own team.  They hated it there. 

[IslandExile]

I know - let's play the "worst tackler at the club" at LWB.

[May Contain Nuts]

32 minutes ago, IslandExile said:

I know - let's play the "worst tackler at the club" at LWB.

You're in the wrong thread

 

[CBRammette]

1 hour ago, angieram said:

Yes, it's usually the 1884 lot, I think. They keep us going at away games and have a much broader repertoire than the South Stand!

Cambridge just seemed to be the fun of new Osula song and where we were at Ipswich couldnt make out what all the songs the constant singers sang were!