Gladram Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Scored a goal as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 14 minutes ago, Gladram said: Scored a goal as well Hope they buy him next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 2 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: Hope they buy him next season. As if they can afford him? Reggie Greenwood, Hans Datdo-Dishes, Crewton and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimtastic56 Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 9 hours ago, Boycie said: As if they can afford him? Enters the last year of his contract in June. £500k ? They are potless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 13 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: Hope they buy him next season. Our chance to get money for him was to bring him back after the world cup and sell. Free transfer now. jimtastic56 and RoyMac5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 22 minutes ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: Our chance to get money for him was to bring him back after the world cup and sell. Free transfer now. Yeah I think you're right. No-one keen to buy him anyway was there. Gee SCREAMER !! and jimtastic56 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 If no-one wants to buy him, he'll get a season long loan again, unless he's willing to buy himself out of the last year of his contract i.e waive his final year wages. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 6 hours ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: Our chance to get money for him was to bring him back after the world cup and sell. Free transfer now. He still has a year and a half on his contract with us Comrade 86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 5 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said: He still has a year and a half on his contract with us He does. Obviously only a year when he's back . We ain't going to get offers for him on 12 months on his salary . It's one we'll be keen to get rid off. Hence, I think a free transfer to shift his salary is likely. If not, it's probably 3 million written off for FFP rather than the half of that we'll be paying Arsenal. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodleyRam Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 Unfortunately for Bielik, in my eyes, he has come to define the Mel Morris era. I whole lot of promise, a huge pot of money spaffed up the wall, and a suffocating dollop of disappointment. As much as I think he has a load of talent, I'll be glad to see the back of him, so we can build a club around an entirely different, more sustainable and authentic culture. SuffolkRam, Miggins, 48 hours and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NimonicRam Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 He's also stuck on 49 appearances for us according to Wiki.... 50 seems a round number for an 'add on'. His Derby career could already be over. RoyMac5, Carl Sagan, jimtastic56 and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew3000 Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 11 hours ago, RodleyRam said: Unfortunately for Bielik, in my eyes, he has come to define the Mel Morris era. I whole lot of promise, a huge pot of money spaffed up the wall, and a suffocating dollop of disappointment. As much as I think he has a load of talent, I'll be glad to see the back of him, so we can build a club around an entirely different, more sustainable and authentic culture. It was a crazy signing. If spending thar amount we could have bought in several improvements. Spending so much on a single player in our circs made no sense. CBRammette, Miggins, jimtastic56 and 4 others 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taribo Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 22 hours ago, Andrew3000 said: It was a crazy signing. If spending thar amount we could have bought in several improvements. Spending so much on a single player in our circs made no sense. Around that time Ivan Toney and Ollie Watkins - combined - went for about half what we paid for Krystian. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 It's very easy to say players were not worth the money after the event when you actually have hindsight to play with. Bielik could have been a sensational signing, we could have got promoted under Cocu, and no one would have been complaining. For every Ivan Toney and Ollie Watkins, there is a Bielik agreed - and I don't disagree that we haven't had the best strategy on purchasing either - but its very easy to criticise down the line. nick_d, Premier ram, May Contain Nuts and 7 others 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 2 hours ago, rammieib said: It's very easy to say players were not worth the money after the event when you actually have hindsight to play with. Bielik could have been a sensational signing, we could have got promoted under Cocu, and no one would have been complaining. For every Ivan Toney and Ollie Watkins, there is a Bielik agreed - and I don't disagree that we haven't had the best strategy on purchasing either - but its very easy to criticise down the line. It's easier to criticise down the line when there's a history of poor, expensive signings and very little show of any real plan, oh plus masses of debt. Yep, it's easy alright. EulogyForEvolution, jimtastic56 and May Contain Nuts 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonwright Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, rammieib said: It's very easy to say players were not worth the money after the event when you actually have hindsight to play with. Bielik could have been a sensational signing, we could have got promoted under Cocu, and no one would have been complaining. For every Ivan Toney and Ollie Watkins, there is a Bielik agreed - and I don't disagree that we haven't had the best strategy on purchasing either - but its very easy to criticise down the line. Of all our terrible signings, Bielik isn't one of them. He's had two ACLs - just freakish terrible luck - and when fit has shown enough for us to know that without those injuries he would have been an absolute rock. There's a difference between a bad transfer (and we've had plenty of them) and bad luck. Bielik is bad luck. If instead of what seems like dozens of Butterfields and Blackmans and Joswiaks, we'd just have signed three or four Bieliks, we'd be in a much better place. Edited February 13, 2023 by vonwright LazloW, Tamworthram, Andicis and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 1 hour ago, vonwright said: Of all our terrible signings, Bielik isn't one of them. He's had two ACLs - just freakish terrible luck - and when fit has shown enough for us to know that without those injuries he would have been an absolute rock. There's a difference between a bad transfer (and we've had plenty of them) and bad luck. Bielik is bad luck. If instead of what seems like dozens of Butterfields and Blackmans and Joswiaks, we'd just have signed three or four Bieliks, we'd be in a much better place. I agree these players were generally pants. However, knowing he had some attributes that would make a difference to us, even knowing that we were flying, he's stayed were he was with us shelling out another 1.5 million on transfer fee this season with no return. That to me makes him worse than the others as the aforementioned players wouldn't have played for us again bar a few likely games for Jozwiak as we were desperate. Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 22 hours ago, rammieib said: It's very easy to say players were not worth the money after the event when you actually have hindsight to play with. Bielik could have been a sensational signing, we could have got promoted under Cocu, and no one would have been complaining. For every Ivan Toney and Ollie Watkins, there is a Bielik agreed - and I don't disagree that we haven't had the best strategy on purchasing either - but its very easy to criticise down the line. I dont think its about whether he was worth the money as he could have risen through the leagues with us as our key player barring injury BUT the amount invested for one player at that stage easily demonstrates the roulette played with our club by MM jimtastic56, InstaRam, RoyMac5 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 Not about KB but like the banter jimtastic56 and Carl Sagan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scout's dad Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 (edited) 25 minutes ago, CBRammette said: Not about KB but like the banter Who said footballers are not funny ? Edited February 14, 2023 by scout's dad CBRammette 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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