jimtastic56 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 4 hours ago, Unlucky Alf said: Nope not going Jim, You're not going to convince me that playing a half arsed team against another half arsed team in a half arsed competition, I wouldn't go if it were FOC to get in. We used to say”We could put 11 Derby shirts on a washing line and fans would turn up to watch”. What about giving kids free tickets for this game? Also remember a £100 away day is giving nothing to DCFC. Spend it at PP.We need cash for a striker! Crewton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 hour ago, jono said: If Gruel - Pollard scores I am going to say “please sir can I have some more” Pun noted but are you thinking this a possibility? Can't take too much from 7 minutes of U21 highlights but he didn't look too happy there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 8 minutes ago, jameso said: Pun noted but are you thinking this a possibility? Can't take too much from 7 minutes of U21 highlights but he didn't look too happy there! I couldn’t help it, every time I see his name, makes me chuckle and think of BBC Dickens productions from long ago. TBH I know nothing about him but someone suggested he might make the suds bench. What position does he play ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, jono said: I couldn’t help it, every time I see his name, makes me chuckle and think of BBC Dickens productions from long ago. TBH I know nothing about him but someone suggested he might make the suds bench. What position does he play ? Oh I think Daz waz might have something to say about that.... ? jono 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve How Hard? Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 10 minutes ago, jono said: I couldn’t help it, every time I see his name, makes me chuckle and think of BBC Dickens productions from long ago. TBH I know nothing about him but someone suggested he might make the suds bench. What position does he play ? It sounds like you have great expectations of him regardless of his position. jono and Blondest Goat 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaahnRam Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Tamworthram said: Do we get anything/much from catering these days? I’ve lost track of if it’s outsourced or not. I don’t think the club would get much from merchandise sales. How many season ticket holders are going to buy a shirt or scarf just because they attended an early round cup match (excluding half and half’s of course ?)? I understand your sentiment about creating a bit more of an atmosphere but, when it comes to costs, it’s not just about entry to the game. Sorry, I know I’m a half fan but I’m not going to drive up from Tamworth for a mid week game against Grimsby in the PJ Trophy even if admission was included in my ST and I know there are ST holders that live much further away than I do. Before anyone asks, I know it’s a bit hypercritical but yes I might be interested if we reached Wembley but that’s a bit more interesting than Grimsby at home (no offence. I’m sure Grimsby fans feel the same) and more of a day out. If we did get there then I would be fully supportive of those attending earlier rounds getting ticket priority. Fair point, without knowing the catering arrangements it's anyone's guess about the % of revenue that would actually come to the club. Would a half and half Derby - Grimsby scarf sway you into coming? If so I'll put a call in... Tamworthram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaahnRam Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 2 hours ago, ram59 said: The trouble is that for cup games the gate money has to be spread between the home club, the away club and the organisers of he competition. If we've got 19,000 season tickets holders, we would have to pay the away team and the organisers their share of the revenue from the season ticket sales for that match, whether or not those season ticket holders turn up. Yeah I get that, perhaps instead then offer STHs a free ticket which they have to claim from the ticket office rather than have it included in the ST price. I'm sure there'd be a way to do it if someone worked out it'd be a better option for the club financially. Perhaps they already have and decided it's not worth it , who knows... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 hour ago, TaahnRam said: Yeah I get that, perhaps instead then offer STHs a free ticket which they have to claim from the ticket office rather than have it included in the ST price. I'm sure there'd be a way to do it if someone worked out it'd be a better option for the club financially. Perhaps they already have and decided it's not worth it , who knows... Not surprisingly, it doesn’t look like that would be an option: 21.11 Where the Home Club issues season tickets which allow holders of such tickets: 21.11.1 free admission to a match in the Competition then each season ticket holder that attends is treated as having bought a ticket at the same price as that allocated to that seat for that match; or 21.11.2 discounted admission to a match in the Competition then in calculating the amount to be included as Gross Receipts of the match any discount from the admission price shall be excluded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 hour ago, jono said: I couldn’t help it, every time I see his name, makes me chuckle and think of BBC Dickens productions from long ago. TBH I know nothing about him but someone suggested he might make the suds bench. What position does he play ? An attacking left back, currently playing at centre half due to our horrendous injury list. jono and Stuniverse 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 We’re likely to get knocked out here realistically, even if we play our strongest team. So we may as well rest some of our key players - with such a busy schedule coming up - and give some of our reserve players a change to show what they can do, and keep their fitness up. It’s a long season, and we’ll need everyone firing if called upon. Loach Knight Rooney Roberts Forsyth Smith Thompson Mendez-Laing Sibley Barkhuizen McGoldrick Oldben 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram59 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 2 hours ago, TaahnRam said: Yeah I get that, perhaps instead then offer STHs a free ticket which they have to claim from the ticket office rather than have it included in the ST price. I'm sure there'd be a way to do it if someone worked out it'd be a better option for the club financially. Perhaps they already have and decided it's not worth it , who knows... Another thing to take into consideration is that both sides need to accept the ticket pricing arrangements and I think that there is also minimum price set by the organisers, but I'm not certain about that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted August 22, 2022 Author Share Posted August 22, 2022 6 hours ago, TaahnRam said: Always feel the club misses a trick by not including cup vouchers in season tickets any more. Used to guarantee a crowd of 10-12k even for a nothing match. I think we'd see a gain in overall revenue from merchandise/catering even if we gave one or two free cup vouchers a year for no extra charge. In particular, I would have liked to have seen this adopted for the PJ Trophy games this season to try and generate a little bit of a crowd/atmosphere for the players. As things stand for the Grimsby game next week, we're looking at an attendance of 1-2k which will I think be the lowest ever at PP? Even for the friendlies we were getting significantly more which seems bonkers. Then we'd be paying the away side to come. 45% of gate receipts go to the away side. I your scenario, despite them being 'free' (included in ST), there would still be an assigned value for the game. If we said the average was £8 per season ticket for a cup game, that's £72k for the away side, and £32k to the EFL, and NOTHING for us. No guarantee many of those fans will actually turn up either. Or, if not included with ST and just 6k turn up (plus 3k away fans), that's £32k to us. Would we really get an extra £136k from catering if giving free admittance to season ticket holders? I certainly do not think so. Crewton, Dordogne-Ram and jimtastic56 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 2 hours ago, angieram said: An attacking left back, currently playing at centre half due to our horrendous injury list. He was making very good progress last season. Wasn't sure if he's being groomed as a possible ball-playing centre-half (I think he played there a few times last season) or he's there because of injuries. Either way he has had (and will have again) much better games than he seemed to vs Sunderland u21s. Looks like they want them playing out from the back, which makes sense if that's what they'd be doing for the first XI one day... but some way to go yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 hour ago, jameso said: He was making very good progress last season. Wasn't sure if he's being groomed as a possible ball-playing centre-half (I think he played there a few times last season) or he's there because of injuries. Either way he has had (and will have again) much better games than he seemed to vs Sunderland u21s. Looks like they want them playing out from the back, which makes sense if that's what they'd be doing for the first XI one day... but some way to go yet! Same for the 1st 11 tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SillyBilly Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 8 hours ago, Tamworthram said: Before anyone asks, I know it’s a bit hypercritical but yes I might be interested if we reached Wembley but that’s a bit more interesting than Grimsby at home (no offence. I’m sure Grimsby fans feel the same) and more of a day out. If we did get there then I would be fully supportive of those attending earlier rounds getting ticket priority. Only surprised you'd be interested at all to be honest. I'd have zero interest if we got to Wembley and won the Papa John's Trophy, perhaps I haven't had the reality dose of what we are as yet but I don't see any prestige in winning that whatsoever. I can just imagine the p*** taking from down the road with them competing in the Prem and us having a parade in Derby for our glory in the lower league's pizza trophy. Shudder thinking about it, best we put the kids out in my view and give them some game time and experience. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreveram Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 53 minutes ago, SillyBilly said: Only surprised you'd be interested at all to be honest. I'd have zero interest if we got to Wembley and won the Papa John's Trophy, perhaps I haven't had the reality dose of what we are as yet but I don't see any prestige in winning that whatsoever. I can just imagine the p*** taking from down the road with them competing in the Prem and us having a parade in Derby for our glory in the lower league's pizza trophy. Shudder thinking about it, best we put the kids out in my view and give them some game time and experience. This is the league cup thread. Crewton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SillyBilly Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 8 minutes ago, Foreveram said: This is the league cup thread. Report it to a moderator then, hopefully they can deal with it for you. i-Ram and jimtastic56 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreveram Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, SillyBilly said: Report it to a moderator then, hopefully they can deal with it for you. Report what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 7 hours ago, Steve How Hard? said: It sounds like you have great expectations of him regardless of his position. I fear it's more likely to be hard times Crewton, archram and Steve How Hard? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandiacreRam Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Shame the crowd is going to be small, completely understand that times are hard and WBA at home is not a great fixture , for non ST holders cost of quite a few home games over next few weeks Tbh , I Wasn’t going to bother , but as I am fortunate in being able to afford it , I gave myself a talking too as I would of certainly gone to a new away ground ( and that would have certainly been far more expensive) , it was only a couple of months ago when I/we were unsure we would have a club to support ...my tenner won’t I guess make much of a difference but I just want to support the club Pity I can’t sit in my ST seat but hey a chance to experience the game in another area ROKERITE, jimtastic56, DerbyRevolution and 4 others 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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