Ambitious Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 It shows the value of the loan market for teams though, rather than selling talent at their lowest ebb, it's shown that loaning them can be a lot more effective. Gibbs White was loaned to Sheffield United after a string of underwhelming performances for Wolves - £40m Djed Spence was loaned to Nottingham Forest after falling out of favour with the manager at Boro - £20m Before those loan moves then you're looking at a maximum £10m for those two players, but it generated £60m based on loan moves to the Championship. If you're a Championship club and aggressive in the loan market then you have to hit that point home very hard to teams in the Premier League. I did like the look of Gibbs White, but feel like anything above £20m is stupid money for a player with his production. You can buy potential, sure, but how many players over the years go backwards in their career rather than forwards - it's a lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Abu Derby, NG2Ram, Rammy03 and 14 others 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuffLuff Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 (edited) The thing is if you are needing to spend £40 mill on a young promising attacking midfielder, what does it say about the promising attacking midfielder you rate at £20 million from your own academy? Edited August 8, 2022 by TuffLuff Crewton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 2 hours ago, TuffLuff said: Currently on holiday and had to laugh at the guy in the Forest shirt I saw around 3pm on Saturday walking through the town…and then had mysteriously changed his top when I saw him again a couple of hours later That's the trouble with these mother's, Winning and the shirts on, Chest puffed out poncing around to show all who they are, Losing and it's hidden away in a darkened room, The doors locked and curtains/blinds drawn and telling the Doctors he's getting better NG2Ram and Crewton 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 RadioactiveWaste, Ambitious, GenBr and 2 others 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 It's only 1 game and Newcastle will probably be in and around the top 6 i think but on the highlights forest looked pretty shocking. Disjointed, lacking any penetration or quality, and even looked quite disorganised. Dare I say, it reminded me a little of our last stint in the Premier League.... Now I think they'll get a few wins at home where they'll feel more confident but survival already seems like a tall order for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucksRam Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 First game of the season so no real shock. Sure they'll bounce back. Hope they do well, I really do Reggie Greenwood and Rammy03 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 25 minutes ago, Rammy03 said: I cant believe that guy would rather stay in spain and play in front of a packed, raking, 3-tier stand when he's being given the opportunity to showcase his talents in front of...... ? Crewton, Day and Rammy03 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyBritishMidland Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 21 minutes ago, Leeds Ram said: It's only 1 game and Newcastle will probably be in and around the top 6 i think but on the highlights forest looked pretty shocking. Disjointed, lacking any penetration or quality, and even looked quite disorganised. Dare I say, it reminded me a little of our last stint in the Premier League.... Now I think they'll get a few wins at home where they'll feel more confident but survival already seems like a tall order for them. Ah yes, those familiar words!! RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 52 minutes ago, FlyBritishMidland said: Ah yes, those familiar words!! Are followed by "but it's alright darling"? FlyBritishMidland, Hans Datdo-Dishes and Ted McMinn Football Genius 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scout's dad Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Van der MoodHoover said: I cant believe that guy would rather stay in spain and play in front of a packed, raking, 3-tier stand when he's being given the opportunity to showcase his talents in front of...... ? You used the wrong photo mate? Crewton, Premier ram and Van der MoodHoover 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 5 hours ago, RadioactiveWaste said: Saw a Forest fan mention that this is indicative of their scattergun approach to recruitment prior to Cooper joining. Can only assume it was lost on him that their recruitment under Cooper so far amounts to building a (to be fair, good) team from players they don’t own then having to replace them all at way above market fees because clubs know they are desperate. Not to mention spending all summer chasing a player who’s current club seems to have little interest in selling, and getting as far as agreeing a fee for their third left back of the window before realising he has no interest in signing for them. RadioactiveWaste and Rammy03 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Forest’s squad last season was probably a midtable squad but the loan players elevated the first-team XI to top six standard in a poor Championship. Derby were the same under Lampard. Taking Mount, Wilson and Tomori out and we were suddenly a midtable side at best. Had we got promoted in 2019 we would have had to do the same in fairness. Spend a bucket load just to plug holes and replace players who clearly aren’t good enough. Crewton, alram, Ted McMinn Football Genius and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bris Vegas said: Forest’s squad last season was probably a midtable squad but the loan players elevated the first-team XI to top six standard in a poor Championship. Derby were the same under Lampard. Taking Mount, Wilson and Tomori out and we were suddenly a midtable side at best. Had we got promoted in 2019 we would have had to do the same in fairness. Spend a bucket load just to plug holes and replace players who clearly aren’t good enough. I should imagine a a far higher proportion of our fans would realise this though, and not start deluding ourselves that we are suddenly transformed into a top 10 PL side because of our achievements in the 70s. Edited August 8, 2022 by Coconut's Beard Rammy03 and Reggie Greenwood 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbados Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 11 hours ago, Bris Vegas said: Forest’s squad last season was probably a midtable squad but the loan players elevated the first-team XI to top six standard in a poor Championship. Derby were the same under Lampard. Taking Mount, Wilson and Tomori out and we were suddenly a midtable side at best. Had we got promoted in 2019 we would have had to do the same in fairness. Spend a bucket load just to plug holes and replace players who clearly aren’t good enough. This. Couldn't believe my eyes when I saw their line up on opening day, nearly £80 million odd spent and their main goal threat is Sam Surridge, being played through by the pirlo-esque Jack Colback. Not to worry though as they had the defensive masterclass of Joe Worrall and McKenna to rely on. Don’t get me started on Lingard, the new lord Bendtner £80 million im not laughing, honest. . . Rammy03, Ted McMinn Football Genius, Premier ram and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 11 hours ago, Coconut's Beard said: I should imagine a a far higher proportion of our fans would realise this though, and not start deluding ourselves that we are suddenly transformed into a top 10 PL side because of our achievements in the 70s. I doubt that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier ram Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 20 hours ago, RadioactiveWaste said: Stand your ground Harry , dont make it easy for them Reggie Greenwood and RadioactiveWaste 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier ram Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Derbados said: This. Couldn't believe my eyes when I saw their line up on opening day, nearly £80 million odd spent and their main goal threat is Sam Surridge, being played through by the pirlo-esque Jack Colback. Not to worry though as they had the defensive masterclass of Joe Worrall and McKenna to rely on. Don’t get me started on Lingard, the new lord Bendtner £80 million im not laughing, honest. . . I am Rammy03 and Reggie Greenwood 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG2Ram Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 ? Rammy03, RadioactiveWaste and Premier ram 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 52 minutes ago, NG2Ram said: ? That’s quite a scary picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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