BondJovi Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, Ken Tram said: What is the estimated difference in price between an exit from administration with a 15 point deduction, and with a zero point deduction? It is not obvious to me that a buyer would obviously avoid the 15 point deduction. Firstly, they may take a long term view. Secondly, they would have £x million saved up that they could spend. I just can't see the logic in taking on the -15. It would be starting with a new squad of whatever we can fudge together and operating under an agreed business plan. Would Rooney even stick by to suffer this crap again? I could see it being a disaster. I fear the best chance we had was December. That would have given us the chance to maybe bring in some frees, extend contracts and make staying up a bit easier. Gibson put an end to that. Who knows what the problem is now. Crewton, Rammy03 and Ken Tram 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheff Ram Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 9 hours ago, Ellafella said: My gut feel and not based on any evidence or firm reasoning: 1. Club will be bought eventually but at very low price. 2. Current players will all disappear to balance books. 3. Relegation to L1 & 15 point deduction next year. 4. Bare bones & remnant shell of a Club next season. 5. If the rot stops there, we can effectively begin again. Sorry to be pessimistic but clearly the protracted nature of it all tells the story. Lets though stay positive because that’s what ultimately keeps the Club going. A season or 2 of bare survival but we come back stronger in 3 years. Look at Luton. Keep the faith. It’s what makes the City a footballing hotbed. "Low ball bid saves the club but 15 point penalty for not satisfying the EFL" And also thing it will play out like what you have detailed below. Not worst case scenario, not best case - somewhere in the middle to lower level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Only 14% of posters think we'll be liquidated, yet 86% of the comments on the administration thread are by people who think we'll be liquidated ? Tamworthram, Ken Tram, Crewton and 2 others 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted March 11, 2022 Author Share Posted March 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, Carnero said: Only 14% of posters think we'll be liquidated, yet 86% of the comments on the administration thread are by people who think we'll be liquidated ? That's why polls are valuable - they give the silent majority a voice. Carnero and Ken Tram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Mike Ashley will buy the club and even though his reputation for swooping on distressed businesses is well known, his love of football must mean that he wouldn’t want to start on -15 next season. It’s a game of poker and he wants to see the hands of the other interested parties before raising. The Binnies have folded. He will offer the minimum to avoid further EFL penalties, but the entire deal depends on Mel taking on at least half of the MSD stadium loan. Mel took a while to intervene in parasite world and I suppose is taking a while now to do the right thing. Let’s hope a PB is named by next Wednesday ( 4-5 working days) as Quantuma are running out of deadline naming rights. Ellafella, Carnero, Sheff Ram and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheff Ram Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 1 hour ago, hintonsboots said: Mike Ashley will buy the club and even though his reputation for swooping on distressed businesses is well known, his love of football must mean that he wouldn’t want to start on -15 next season. It’s a game of poker and he wants to see the hands of the other interested parties before raising. The Binnies have folded. He will offer the minimum to avoid further EFL penalties, but the entire deal depends on Mel taking on at least half of the MSD stadium loan. Mel took a while to intervene in parasite world and I suppose is taking a while now to do the right thing. Let’s hope a PB is named by next Wednesday ( 4-5 working days) as Quantuma are running out of deadline naming rights. Again, a good interpretation of what may happen. Hope you are right. hintonsboots 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 My prediction is that this thread will turn in to the Administration thread Mark 2 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Jimbo Ram said: My prediction is that this thread will turn in to the Administration thread Mark 2 ? I predict you are right Jimbo Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alram Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 as long as the club survive i dont care what happens, we could be in league two next season for all i care i just want a club to go and watch Tamworthram, Ken Tram and Crewton 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 I don’t believe for a second we will be liquidated but I can easily see the “worst case” happening. Relegation to L1 All the bright young talent that we have seen become real men this season will go. A further 15 point penalty will see us fall to L2 having had to endure a miserable season with many players we just don’t know and under the EFL’s polished jackboot again. We begin again in 18 months time. There are some glimmers of hope and some new faces to be enthused about, but playing Barrow in a mid week game and a local Derby against Mansfield Town isn’t really what we are as a football city and home of former Champions. Ellafella and Premier ram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellafella Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 3 hours ago, jono said: I don’t believe for a second we will be liquidated but I can easily see the “worst case” happening. Relegation to L1 All the bright young talent that we have seen become real men this season will go. A further 15 point penalty will see us fall to L2 having had to endure a miserable season with many players we just don’t know and under the EFL’s polished jackboot again. We begin again in 18 months time. There are some glimmers of hope and some new faces to be enthused about, but playing Barrow in a mid week game and a local Derby against Mansfield Town isn’t really what we are as a football city and home of former Champions. To paraphrase Orwell, "If you want a picture of the future, imagine the EFL's polished jackboot stamping on a Derby Fan's human face—for ever." ? jono, Crewton and strawhillram 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 7 hours ago, Carnero said: Only 14% of posters think we'll be liquidated, yet 86% of the comments on the administration thread are by people who think we'll be liquidated ? The classic 80/20 rule evidenced on here......20% of the posters make 80% of the noise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Current bidders will wait to see which league we’re in. Once that’s sorted they will decide whether to wee or get off the pot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glyn1957 Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Just my opinion ,sadly i fear liquidation because each week i think we become less and less attractive for any purchaser . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black ('n' White) Sheep Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 As soon as we find out what league we'll be in next season, I reckon a deal will be struck pretty quickly. A L1 team is going to be worth considerably less than a Champ team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Trav Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 My personal opinion is this will not get done. Until we mathematically know what division we’re in. This’ll go down right to the wire. Mike Ashley will be in charge and we’ll renew almost everyone’s contract depending on if we start in league 1 or champ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean (hick) Saunders Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 My view. “Another pint of Wainwright landlord..” Amberram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 On 11/03/2022 at 01:51, Yani P said: I think takeover will complete early next season, no 15 point penalty. As it happens, so do I. Based on no insight other than a deep sense of ennui in my plague pit! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brammie Steve Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 In the last half century we have won the League ChampionshipTWICE! European Cup semi finalists. Won two sponsored trophies (Watney and Texaco) Been massively etertaining (usually!) Kept a huge and loyal fanbase. Brought cheer to an otherwise gloomy outlook to thousands in Derbyshire. So how can we even imagine a Derbyshire with no Derby County? No way!, ! COYR! strawhillram and IslandExile 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawhillram Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 On 11/03/2022 at 18:03, Tyler Durden said: The classic 80/20 rule evidenced on here......20% of the posters make 80% of the noise. I hear what you are saying ! ? Tyler Durden 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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