Yani P Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Unlucky Alf said: Yesterdays official is a one of a kind, Dean thinks fans come to see him officiate, Prancing around then when questioned a shrug of the shoulders and a "what are you asking for" question on his mush. Officials what are they good for...absolutely nothing! We need this guy in.. Ram-Alf, Crewton, Premier ram and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curb Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Nooooooooo, the end of football for me. EtoileSportiveDeDerby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 No, VAR can duck off. EtoileSportiveDeDerby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaRam Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Yes for me, we’d have a fair few more points this year with VAR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean (hick) Saunders Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Only if it can work in less than a minute. If not I’d prefer the errors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted February 13, 2022 Author Share Posted February 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, Dean (hick) Saunders said: Only if it can work in less than a minute. If not I’d prefer the errors Worked well in International tournaments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Dean (hick) Saunders said: Only if it can work in less than a minute. If not I’d prefer the errors It does work in less than a minute, It takes the officials an age to decide what they should give after seeing the offence some 20 times, And as most officials are blind a conclusive decision is often not the right one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ketteringram Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Tamworthram said: Where it is used, what I'd like is to hear the conversation (obviously not if you're at the ground) between the referee and the VAR team as they do in rugby union. If fact, why can't we hear all the conversations with the players again, as we do in Rugby? I haven't been to a rugby international since the 1980's. Though it sometimes takes them a long time, I think it works well. If watching on TV, you can hear what's being discussed. Can the crowd in the stadium hear that too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 38 minutes ago, ketteringram said: I haven't been to a rugby international since the 1980's. Though it sometimes takes them a long time, I think it works well. If watching on TV, you can hear what's being discussed. Can the crowd in the stadium hear that too? Yes you can pay for a receiver and earpiece that is tuned into the refs mic. Even then, there are very different levels of reffing chat. I hired one once when Jonathan kaplan was reffing and thought it wasn't working for a while, then heard a quiet "scrum white"..... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 (edited) 51 minutes ago, ketteringram said: I haven't been to a rugby international since the 1980's. Though it sometimes takes them a long time, I think it works well. If watching on TV, you can hear what's being discussed. Can the crowd in the stadium hear that too? Edited February 13, 2022 by Tamworthram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 VAR is something to be resisted as long as is possible. It hasn't improved the premier League. It won't improve the championship. A revolutionary new approach would be to understand the nature of the game and accept the referees decision as final and get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Think of the end to the Birmingham game with VAR in place. No thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alty_Ram Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 I'm with RadioactiveWaste and nottingram on this. It may make more 'correct' decisions but at what cost ? I love that moment of insanity like when Bielik's overhead kick hit the net. I can live with a glance at the ref and assistant to see if they are indicating goal but the forensic examination to try and find something wrong with a goal is just counterproductive in entertainment terms to me at least and I'm happy enough to take my chances with an official's decision, good or bad. I appreciate that not everyone sees it that way. cstand and RadioactiveWaste 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkleyram Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 On 13/02/2022 at 12:09, Rambalin said: Wrong decisions are one of the things over the years that has driven the popularity of the game. Making for many friendships bought about debating the rights and wrongs of it. Chris Coles raised a theory yesterday that Prem refs dropping to the lower leagues are not making the big decisions because they are used not having too, due to var making them for them. It is a interesting theory to discuss This. You see it in cricket all the time - umpires no longer bother to judge no balls by bowlers; guess on LBW's and catches knowing that the review system will probably bail them out; captains and players review tactically rather than when they necessarily think that an incorrect decision has been made. It has changed the game. Umpires are less competent than they were. To be fair at least cricket has got the use of the review system largely correct, though limiting the number of reviews introduces a tactical element to the system, but football with all its money and technology has got VAR significantly wrong. It was meant to help referees get everything right primarily because an error was too expensive, cost managers' jobs and because fans don't like errors. Even with VAR they still make huge mistakes, just different ones, managers are still getting sacked, clubs still get relegated and fans don't like it because we can't celebrate a goal in the moment, have to spend as much time talking about VAR as we do about finance and can't talk about the football. Get rid/never introduce it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimRam Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 (edited) Not football. Example last season. Burnley v Bournemouth Goal scored, few minutes later, penalty given the other end. Just daft. Edited February 18, 2022 by TimRam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1of4 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 (edited) Why do we need VAR in the championship? Just carry on with how they've presently been doing it. Go with what Parry and Gibson want. Edited February 18, 2022 by 1of4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cstand Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 VAR is a big no from me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BriggRam Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 VAR is not a problem, it's the Human factor that messes it's view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralRam Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 No. VAR has ruined the Premier League for me. Don't need it ruining the Championship too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 On 25/02/2022 at 16:43, GeneralRam said: No. VAR has ruined the Premier League for me. Don't need it ruining the Championship too Just watched the perfect advert for why I do not want VAR in the Championship. Someone, somewhere, has spent 2 or 3 minutes watching someone blatantly handball the ball in their own area and decided it is not a penalty. Happy for matters of fact to be decided by VAR but matters of opinion should stay with the ref in real time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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