Ram-Alf Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, FindernRam said: Why Tuesday? Kirchner has a car running in the Indy 500 on Sunday, maybe he wants to be there and in Derby for the big sign off (Apologies if someone answered this already, I'm following my practice of on clicking on every 5th page!) Go to page 1646 you'll find out ? CBRammette, hintonsboots and jimtastic56 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Brammie Steve said: Am I Steve with a V Or Stephen with a PH? Which one is it?!! Love name spelling things and how we try to answer the question before it’s asked I had a client called O’nions … “onions with an apostrophe” and a guy called feneley “3 e’s and 1 of everything else” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 3 hours ago, jono said: We need a quality newspaper, like the Sun, with a photo of a furtive looking Rick leaving a well known establishment near the railway station Tbf, the reputation of the Merry Widows is not as bad as the reality...... jono and Eddie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 8 minutes ago, uttoxram75 said: Tbf, the reputation of the Merry Widows is not as bad as the reality...... Or even Bubbles ? jimtastic56 and Crewton 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeedsCityRam Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 39 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: It was the £80m stadium sale which raised eyebrows. The accounts for 17/18 were released in early April, Gibson 'forcibly questioned' the sale in privateduring April then started with his public threats in May, a couple of days before we played Villa. If it wasn't for the stadium sale, Gibson wouldn't have questioned anything, and the EFL wouldn't have bothered looking into the accounts/amortisation at all. The stadium sale (or value of the stadium to be more precise) was a factor but I don't think that was the only trigger. With regard to Gibson, believe there were 2 main aggravating factors - most obviously the fact we finished just above them in the playoffs that year with an expensive 'new' squad (by April they were collapsing & we were on the march to 6th) and the previous summer we'd bought Waghorn having outbid Boro, which seemed at odds with Morris' intention to wind down the spending that spring. Had the stadium sale still gone through the 17/18 accounts & we'd have finished, say 9th in 18/19, I'm certain Gibson wouldn't have started his legal threats. FlyBritishMidland, Zag zig and Indy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brammie Steve Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 31 minutes ago, jono said: Love name spelling things and how we try to answer the question before it’s asked I had a client called O’nions … “onions with an apostrophe” and a guy called feneley “3 e’s and 1 of everything else” Our late neighbour used to say "I'm John Onions pronounced like the veg!" jono 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brammie Steve Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 3 hours ago, G STAR RAM said: Good, because he never made £135m of loans to the club. If he did, then the administrators certainly aren't aware of it as it was not shown in their statement of affairs. An old adage How do you become a millionaire? Start as a billionaire and buy a yacht!* *or a football club! I know nuffin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 51 minutes ago, FindernRam said: Why Tuesday? Kirchner has a car running in the Indy 500 on Sunday, maybe he wants to be there and in Derby for the big sign off (Apologies if someone answered this already, I'm following my practice of on clicking on every 5th page!) In that case, I'll try to answer that in 4 pages time...... jimtastic56 and Hans Datdo-Dishes 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 12 minutes ago, LeedsCityRam said: The stadium sale (or value of the stadium to be more precise) was a factor but I don't think that was the only trigger. With regard to Gibson, believe there were 2 main aggravating factors - most obviously the fact we finished just above them in the playoffs that year with an expensive 'new' squad (by April they were collapsing & we were on the march to 6th) and the previous summer we'd bought Waghorn having outbid Boro, which seemed at odds with Morris' intention to wind down the spending that spring. Had the stadium sale still gone through the 17/18 accounts & we'd have finished, say 9th in 18/19, I'm certain Gibson wouldn't have started his legal threats. Gibson didn't mention the amortisation policy until 2021, conveniently after the stadium charge was dismissed and when the EFL chose to appeal against the amortisation issue. Gibson was adamant the Stadium was only worth £20m. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Brammie Steve said: No sausages though!? And the black pudding was crisp. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, Eddie said: And the black pudding was crisp. MM went to town on the food as well then? jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeedsCityRam Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Gibson didn't mention the amortisation policy until 2021, conveniently after the stadium charge was dismissed and when the EFL chose to appeal against the amortisation issue. Gibson was adamant the Stadium was only worth £20m. Oh yes, he was definitely scrambling around for something to fire at Morris & probably knew Parry would be wary of any legal threats he made after the Christian Ziege case a few years earlier. Whilst the seeds were sown the previous summer, it was just rank bad timing that the stadium sale, Boro's 18/19 collapse & the provocation of a litigious individual happened all around the same time. Grim irony that Morris seems to have settled around the value of PP Gibson was adamant was correct. Edited May 28, 2022 by LeedsCityRam jimtastic56 and Ghost of Clough 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 12 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Gibson was adamant the Stadium was only worth £20m. Which is just utterly bonkers. Even the EFL's pet valuer, who thought Pride Park was basically a 25k capacity shed, with 3 sides only being terraced, thought it was worth ~£50m. LeedsCityRam and Indy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mihangel Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 I only hope that this thread now disappears in to history (while recognising I'm hoofing it up), absolutely no disrespect to the Rams who have been discussing the various financial intricacies of our past year or so but I hope never to hear another thing about amortisation, IFRS, stadium valuations etc etc in regard to our club, I'll be a happy bunny. 20+ years of working with accountants and most of my oldest friends are in that profession, football was my distraction! LeedsCityRam, Carnero, archram and 6 others 6 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curb Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 4 hours ago, ariotofmyown said: Any who were aware of the dire financial state of the club at the time, then enjoyed bouncing all the way to Wembley with Frank, but are now slagging of Mel for wreckless spending, are hypocrites. We should have listened to the Snake Rowett at the time. Perhaps Rowett was also told a bunch of lies when he joined? Then after one season, was then told there was no money and he'd have to sell everyone? The real Snake remained at Pride Park, ready to cause more carnage. My crystal ball was being polished that week, that’s why I couldn’t see into the future. ariotofmyown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scout's dad Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 (edited) If you’re Pearce, it's with a P45.? Edited May 28, 2022 by scout's dad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamuelLJackson Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 19 hours ago, Crewton said: The backers are Chinese and 31 is 3+1=4 which is a lucky number in China. FACT Actually 4 is the most unlucky number in Chinese numerology as it can also be pronounced to mean "death". 8 is the luckiest number kevinhectoring 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Brammie Steve said: Our late neighbour used to say "I'm John Onions pronounced like the veg!" My Scottish Mother in Law used to say, as an example of the glottal stop. Ma name's Pa'erson, wi' two 'TT's (emphasised) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 18 minutes ago, RamuelLJackson said: Actually 4 is the most unlucky number in Chinese numerology as it can also be pronounced to mean "death". 8 is the luckiest number I hope you realised I wasn't being serious. The backers are Korean. RamuelLJackson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 3 hours ago, jono said: Love name spelling things and how we try to answer the question before it’s asked I had a client called O’nions … “onions with an apostrophe” and a guy called feneley “3 e’s and 1 of everything else” Used to know a guy who said his name was Jim De'ath. I'm sure it was just Jim Death really. jono 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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