PistoldPete Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 22 minutes ago, alexxxxx said: Don't really get the requirement of proving funds at this stage. If we get pulled out of the league 1st Feb then the competition would already be compromised. Exactly. If we run out of money in March and can’t complete the season how is that any worse than being expelled and not completing the season beyond 1 Feb. except Efl has its power trip like some Timon emperor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, Leeds Ram said: How much is his instalment for? would the efl accept ticket sale projections as 'proof of funding' based on an estimate or would they demand something more concrete? I don't know. I don't know, but I'd hope and expect so. Ticket sales are used in P&S projections for the year so I'd be surprised if a different approach was used here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Sorry @Half fan, no reproduction of copyrighted articles please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 20 minutes ago, Ramarena said: Absolutely, I meant that he claims to know all these people and they give him info, yet the reality is he knows very little! Because he's a blabbermouth so only told when they want to get something out i assume. Would you talk to him in confidence? He has verbal diaarhoea RadioactiveWaste and Ramarena 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Half fan Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, GboroRam said: Sorry @Half fan, no reproduction of copyrighted articles please Apologies. Can members read for themselves today's Daily Telegraph Business Section critical review of the EFL?! And then decide how it could help us? RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Ghost of Clough said: I think I recall a recent article showing Boro recently revalued their stadium and training ground at about £86m... Think that was rebuild value Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 28 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Outgoings were about £410k per week (22/09-15/11). We'll be at about £380k following the recent departures. With 15 weeks (and a day) until our final fixture, that's £5.7m. Jozwiak's installment is due so let's just say Wiliams' fee cancels that out. Ticket sales in that early part of the season were £767k for 4 games. A trend of increasing attendances will continue, so that's an extra £2m coming in. £3.7m short give or take based on fees for the players mentioned. I don't think you're too far off here although maybe £1 Million out on the Joz installment fee versus the Williams incoming fee. However the EFL should not be withholding money for TV - even if that is maybe 200-300k. However, I think £4 Million is probably around correct. the only other question I would ask is if the ST money is ring fenced - then surely the income per game is around 16k x £20 plus 8k x £24 as a ticket price. This comes to around 500k for each home game. My suspicion is the money received from ST's sold in 2020 was used but ST's sold prior to this season kicking off was ring fenced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 13 minutes ago, Half fan said: Apologies. Can members read for themselves today's Daily Telegraph Business Section critical review of the EFL?! And then decide how it could help us? Here's the link https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/01/20/footballs-financial-lunacy-cannot-tackled-red-tape/ Half fan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 1 minute ago, rammieib said: I don't think you're too far off here although maybe £1 Million out on the Joz installment fee versus the Williams incoming fee. However the EFL should not be withholding money for TV - even if that is maybe 200-300k. However, I think £4 Million is probably around correct. the only other question I would ask is if the ST money is ring fenced - then surely the income per game is around 16k x £20 plus 8k x £24 as a ticket price. This comes to around 500k for each home game. My suspicion is the money received from ST's sold in 2020 was used but ST's sold prior to this season kicking off was ring fenced. You are right. That ring fenced amount should come in to it. The figures I've been using are from this little snippet, where the ticket sales won't include ST money. rammieib 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Animal is a Ram said: Does it actually matter if we go bust on the first of February or the first of March or the first of April - does the EFL believe that makes any sort of difference to the league which is decided by parachute payments, point deductions and parasite clubs suing each other! RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Ram Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 26 minutes ago, Half fan said: Apologies. Can members read for themselves today's Daily Telegraph Business Section critical review of the EFL?! And then decide how it could help us? Having read the article I’m not sure how it does help us? I think everyone can echo the sentiment written: It’s difficult not to conclude that we’ve seen gross EFL incompetence throughout this saga. A worthy governance institution should enforce rules in a timely manner and offer clarity. The FFP regulations are specifically supposed to ensure that members cannot get into these situations. On those grounds, the EFL has failed. While Derby supporters know that ultimate blame lies with Mel Morris, Derby South MP Margaret Beckett spoke for many in saying: “If Derby are to be liquidated, none of those involved will be forgiven.” But the crux of the article is about not thinking that a government-led regulatory body would have necessarily done any better. At best, something to add to the list of information @David is pulling together? If anyone else notices something more significant, feel free to shout it out. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/01/20/footballs-financial-lunacy-cannot-tackled-red-tape/ Day and RadioactiveWaste 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney1991 Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Rooney not happy with Morris in his interview and rightly so. Also Dylan Williams off to Chelsea but wonder how much for RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Barney1991 said: Rooney not happy with Morris in his interview and rightly so. Also Dylan Williams off to Chelsea but wonder how much for Somewhere between £30k and £100k is my guess. As was pointed out, as he was scholar it affected Derby's bargaining power and we couldn't offer him a pro contract due to the current situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob The Badger Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 I'm not sure if anybody else who's on Twitter is noticing this, but for ever Forest fan gloating in threads about admin/liquidation there are 3 Leeds fans. Leeds fans out number Forest, Boro and every other club combined which is so weird. I hope Bamford never leaves them because he epitomises the whole club, culture and fans. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewe Ram Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 I’m sorry to disrupt the very earnest discussion but Niall Horan retweets DCFC tweet and in 4 minutes he has 14k likes. Oh if only that made some difference RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewe Ram Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, Bob The Badger said: I'm not sure if anybody else who's on Twitter is noticing this, but for ever Forest fan gloating in threads about admin/liquidation there are 3 Leeds fans. Leeds fans out number Forest, Boro and every other club combined which is so weird. I hope Bamford never leaves them because he epitomises the whole club, culture and fans. I don’t read them, I’m angry enough as it is. But Boro unbidden popped up on me Facebook and, my God, they actually love what their club is doing, they really believe that it is for the good of football, and these are not young kids either RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, Ewe Ram said: I’m sorry to disrupt the very earnest discussion but Niall Horan retweets DCFC tweet and in 4 minutes he has 14k likes. Oh if only that made some difference Not on Twitter. Can someone ask him directly if there is anything he can do ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramcoteRam84 Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 16 minutes ago, Barney1991 said: Rooney not happy with Morris in his interview and rightly so. Also Dylan Williams off to Chelsea but wonder how much for And we can’t offer him pro terms because we’re in embargo!! Another Kaide Gordon then!! Cheers Mel! RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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whiteroseram Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, BramcoteRam84 said: And we can’t offer him pro terms because we’re in embargo!! Another Kaide Gordon then!! Cheers Mel! Both more to do with EPPP, although admin doesn't help BramcoteRam84 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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