Pikeyram Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 All of this talk, I want to know what we can action now to help the situation, do we keep writing to MPs,media etc? I feel so helpless, but I need to help my fabulous football club before it's too late. Suggestions please.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Just now, KBB said: Horrible feeling. It's a constant anxiety in my life. This club is my life. Yes work, family, friends and everything else, but this club is my life. I honestly don't think I would be able to bring myself to sit down and watch a game of football again. I dont care about other clubs, they mean nothing to me, it would be going through the motions and when that happens, in any aspect of your life you have to cut ties and walk away. Sorry to everyone trying to keep their spirits up. Today has finished any glimmer of hope I had. The whole thing is rotten to the core. This is what happens when egomaniacs with money run things. They're all over compensating and who cares about us? Gritstone Tup 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 44 minutes ago, StaffsRam said: Steve Gibson, he shoots, he…..oh. The weight of expectation ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, Pikeyram said: All of this talk, I want to know what we can action now to help the situation, do we keep writing to MPs,media etc? I feel so helpless, but I need to help my fabulous football club before it's too late. Suggestions please.... Drink heavily Eddie, BramcoteRam84 and Gritstone Ram 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewetube Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 I suppose the bit that worries me the most is the fact that the parasites face no jeopardy, it's a free hit for them. I find the WW claim bizarre, fanciful and opportunistic. The MB claim is the most worrying though as it seems Curly would quite happily destroy us to afford him a childish victory over MM. The EFL are just totally flaccid, shown to be floundering incompetents. Football is ducked. jono and RadioactiveWaste 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 22 minutes ago, angieram said: I wouldn't wish this on any club's fans, but I think it would be saint-like not to wish ill on their owner! I don’t wish I’ll on their owner but I do believe what goes around comes around and he is a prime candidate then again his actions in his business life have suggested a greater slice of misfortune - maybe it’s coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwood P Dowd Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) Gibson clearly has an obsession/fixation with Mel Morris, perhaps he needs to talk his problems through with someone who can help him see past his obsession. Gibsons statement/rant mostly deals with issues that are nothing to do with his claim for compensation and asks for information that is already in the public domain. A person reading the Gibson statement may come to the conclusion that Gibsons real issue is with Mel Morris and Gibson is unable to separate, in his mind, Mel Morris from Derby County. Edited January 20, 2022 by Elwood P Dowd Spelling vonwright, LeedsCityRam, Ewetube and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) Two things from that open letter: 1) It’s similar in tone to the statements Mel put out when we were charged over the stadium sale. We lapped those up so we shouldn’t be surprised that Boro fans are doing the same. 2) I, for one, would actually like confirmation if we’ve agreed a deal with HMRC. If we haven’t then we’ve been disingenuous in putting the sole blame on Boro and Wycombe. Edited January 20, 2022 by DarkFruitsRam7 Dai Capp, Maharan and bimmerman 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24Charlie Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) They’ll find funding til the end of the season which will allow the EFL to kick the can down the road leaving us all in the same boat in May. Edited January 20, 2022 by 24Charlie jono 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
td_evans Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-10423441/Derby-without-Derby-County-unthinkable-just-10-days-EFL-guillotine.html Front and centre on the Daily Mail Sport page right now with this. Derby4Me, SaffyRam, angieram and 3 others 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maharan Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said: Two things from that open letter: 1) It’s similar in tone to the statements Mel put out when we were charged over the stadium sale. We lapped those up so we shouldn’t be surprised that Boro fans are doing the same. 2) I, for one, would actually like confirmation if we’ve agreed a deal with HMRC. If we haven’t then we’ve been disingenuous in putting the sole blame on Boro and Wycombe. Could not agree with you more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 37 minutes ago, duncanjwitham said: That’s certainly my take on it too. He has a personal issue with Morris and is willing to see us liquidated if it hurts him even a little bit. Absolute scum. Find it hard to believe anyone would have a personal issue with Morris BramcoteRam84 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 minute ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said: 2) I, for one, would actually like confirmation if we’ve agreed a deal with HMRC. If we haven’t then we’ve been disingenuous in putting the sole blame on Boro and Wycombe. Not entirely sure what that would achieve, ignoring the fact it has nothing to do with them, say we do have a deal agreed will they :- a) Apologise and say we honestly didn't realise we were the hold up, we'll drop our claims immediately and wish you luck going forward. or b) That's great, seeing as you were able to successfully negotiate with HMRC, how about come and negotiate with us now. Don't get me wrong, it would be nice to know that everything is in place and we didn't navigate the Boro/Wycombe obstacle to then be told, but there's also this as well now and we have to wait for.... Just as I say, not entirely sure what it would achieve responding to Boro's letter. Animal is a Ram, Andicis and Steve How Hard? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 22 minutes ago, Pikeyram said: All of this talk, I want to know what we can action now to help the situation, do we keep writing to MPs, media etc? I feel so helpless, but I need to help my fabulous football club before it's too late. Suggestions please.... Definitely keep the pressure on. But I think be prepared for a long campaign. If Quantuma come through with 'proof of funding' taking us through to the end of the season then it's gonna be the long game (well a change from playing out from the back!). ? #COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Just now, David said: Not entirely sure what that would achieve, ignoring the fact it has nothing to do with them, say we do have a deal agreed will they :- a) Apologise and say we honestly didn't realise we were the hold up, we'll drop our claims immediately and wish you luck going forward. or b) That's great, seeing as you were able to successfully negotiate with HMRC, how about come and negotiate with us now. Don't get me wrong, it would be nice to know that everything is in place and we didn't navigate the Boro/Wycombe obstacle to then be told, but there's also this as well now and we have to wait for.... Just as I say, not entirely sure what it would achieve responding to Boro's letter. I'm not saying Boro have a right to know. I'd just like to know personally, as if no such deal has been struck then the two claims clearly aren't the sole obstacles they've been made out to be. From what the rumours say then we have struck a deal. In which case I'd love us to respond with a simple "Yes". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) So we are basically still stuck in EFL jeopardy due to their lack of decision making Middlesbrough parasite wants a pay off and he wants all details of everything Derby county - go duck yourself Wycombe are the hangers on and ought to extract themselves from this with haste but they won’t due to also having an ego in charge if the administrators come up with the finance to finish the season it becomes a bit more interesting, would that mean we could bring in a few more bodies to allow the children to finish their education, I doubt it as Gibson wouldn’t allow it. if the administrators can’t get the finance in then they may still sell the club but by having no CVA who knows = minus 15 points next season but no doubt that means the EFL and Gibson can invent something else Edited January 20, 2022 by Sparkle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 8 minutes ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said: Two things from that open letter: 1) It’s similar in tone to the statements Mel put out when we were charged over the stadium sale. We lapped those up so we shouldn’t be surprised that Boro fans are doing the same. 2) I, for one, would actually like confirmation if we’ve agreed a deal with HMRC. If we haven’t then we’ve been disingenuous in putting the sole blame on Boro and Wycombe. 2) If we haven't an HMRC deal then we wouldn't have been about to announce a PB last Friday is my opinion. SaffyRam, FlyBritishMidland, Andicis and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pikeyram Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 So I've just written to Tracey Crouch to ask if she will get all stakeholders round a table and thrash out a resolution. Google Tracey Crouch MP and her email address is there is you fancy doing the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 48 minutes ago, angieram said: I know that, but you talk as if Morris is profiting from the situation. To me he is just trying to limit his losses to the £200 million he's already invested, rather than stump up another £20 million he probably hasn't got. Providing we secure a buyer and continue as a football club, then it's a bloody good asset for the new owner to have and I would be very relieved to have 'our' stadium back. If we don't, then we will be liquidated and everyone loses out, including Mel Morris. But I don't think we should jeopardise the future of Derby County because the best outcome for the club happens to be a good outcome for Morris too. Am I the only who thinks tough poo when i think about the consequences for him. He put us in this mess and if he's the one helping the logjam then pressure needs to start being applied to him too. Rev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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