LN747 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 EFL are being shown to be more and more inept by the second - i highly doubt if any of those grey suits at headquarters have a clue what's going on around them other than realising they have cocked up and their fat celerys are going to end one day soon - surely their time has to be up - they are so amateur... RadioactiveWaste, strawhillram and Ramarena 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, twelveincher said: This is grim, I felt we’d really made some progress over the past few days but fundamentally nothing has changed. I get what you’re saying. However, I feel our hand is stronger in this stalemate now than it was a week ago. RoyMac5, strawhillram, Ram-Alf and 10 others 4 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: Not really how is it irrelevant. Suggest you get on and sign his petition to finish us of if you feel so strongly. If you owed 30 million you'd pay 35 % with another chunk over 2 years. 25% won't be accepted. I pay PAYE so it's taken at source. In actual fact, as a director you can take a loan instead of paying tax, buy a Ferrari and then wind the business up before the due date of paying it back. Don't fill tax returns in, get a determination and pay far less than is due. This has gone for years. HMRC should be keeping a closer watch on this kind of accruing debt. I just don't understand why someone would take umbrage with a taxpayer being angry with HMRC not collecting taxes from a multi million pound business. I won't be signing the petition for obvious reasons, but I also wont take issue with anyone that did choose to sign it. Andicis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeTownRam Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 10 minutes ago, Animal is a Ram said: Interesting thread That 5th section stinks of collusion. Basically throwing DCFC under the bus to save themselves. wow! May Contain Nuts, RadioactiveWaste, Crewton and 9 others 9 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MK-Ram Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 My concern here is simply this - Wycombe may blink but MFC and Gibson are hell-bent on pushing this to liquidation. This is no longer business, it's become personal for them. The EFL redirecting MFC to DCFC is one of the most striking parts of this entire saga. I hate to say, I think it's over. Eddie, strawhillram, RadioactiveWaste and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alty_Ram Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 ouch.... doesn't make great reading. Much as we expected to a degree in that the scale of claims if not ruled out as football debt will render the club valueless. Seems quite black and white really. Boro and Wycombe's actions along with EFL complicity will finish the club because regardless of what they think there is no magic pot of money buried under the corner flag that can pay for these claims. Do they still wonder why they are being portrayed as the bad guys now ? RadioactiveWaste, r_wilcockson and strawhillram 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 If Toby Perkins reporting is accurate then the only way we're saved is if the EFL give in and change their mind. I honestly cannot see that happening given the amount of pressure we've already put on them and their unwillingness to budge. Seriously duck the lot of them. strawhillram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deano180 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 14 minutes ago, Animal is a Ram said: Interesting thread Clearly the EFL have jumped into bed with MFC and are totally inept so much for the looking after the 72, Parry wont be able to sleep at night or walk without a bodyguard if the inevitable happens. Caerphilly Ram, r_wilcockson, Ram-Alf and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 (edited) Don’t forget Hosking could also be calling their bluff. I wouldn’t rule out the possibility of a bidder eventually offering extra cash to come to a compromise (as painful as that would be). Edited January 19, 2022 by DarkFruitsRam7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewetube Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, twelveincher said: This is grim, I felt we’d really made some progress over the past few days but fundamentally nothing has changed. It feels like unless the EFL compromise or the parasites drop their claims then liquidation is the most likely outcome. strawhillram and Eddie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 The really worrying part is players sales flat out not viable due to the amounts involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: I just don't understand why someone would take umbrage with a taxpayer being angry with HMRC not collecting taxes from a multi million pound business. I won't be signing the petition for obvious reasons, but I also wont take issue with anyone that did choose to sign it. I'm not , if this bloke was from Aberdee. As he's from a club16 miles down the road there may be another agenda rather than the public purse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RammingStone66 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Is there anything else we can do to up the political pressure on the EFL? We need maximum pressure on them but most of the mainstream media do not care. It feels like we only get mentioned because they can say the name Wayne Rooney in the same sentence ? If he does leave I don't see Sky giving any poo's that the club is dieing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Bigger than the value of the club. 40 million then despite protestation JoetheRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPRamFan Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 The article on the BBC on Monday about taking out an injunction on these claims seems feasible now. No way will these claims be compromised any other way. strawhillram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbles Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 “The administrator believe they have attracted the maximum amount that can be salvaged for creditors from current interested parties and that finding money to settle MFC and WWFC claims will make the departure from administration unachievable which would make liquidation likely.” This in itself is worrying as owt. Heart says we’ll be OK. We’ll find a solution and get out of this. Head says, well, we’re ducked. Jumble of thoughts really from me, but IF the EFL, Wycombe, Boro allow us to basically cease to exist due to non football creditors - They’ve buggered it too. Can imagine HMRC, and other creditors taking action against them three if they aren’t able to get atleast 25p to the £1 for what they are owed. Carnero, Zag zig and Dai Capp 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 (edited) Nice to know how well the EFL protect it's members by throwing us under the bus as fast as possible as soon as it became possible their bottom line could be damaged. Edited January 19, 2022 by Andicis r_wilcockson, GenBr and Ramarena 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 1 minute ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said: Don’t forget Hosking could also be calling their bluff. I wouldn’t rule out the possibility of a bidder eventually offering extra cash to come to a compromise (as painful as that would be). If he's calling their bluff in a meeting with a local MP rather than being candid about the situation that'd make me concerned for different reasons. This doesn't feel like a 'calling their bluff' kind of statement given they've not moved an inch but rather an admission there is nothing more they can realistically do. DarkFruitsRam7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black ('n' White) Sheep Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Bugger ? that makes it sound like we need either/or: A bloody good sports lawyer, and quick... to prove they're not football debts The EFL to change their stance MFC/WWFC to change their stance External forces (government) to override decisions None of which seem very likely at this stage, sadly. JPRamFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r_wilcockson Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: Bigger than the value of the club. 40 million then despite protestation All depends whether Boro and Wycombe are actually after money or are after the liquidation of Derby. It's clear that the most we can offer is a very small settlement to each so that they go away. If Derby liquidate they will get nothing and will be the most hated teams in the land - you choose..... strawhillram and Maharan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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