Yani P Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 5 hours ago, Gaspode said: Done - don't know how Morris can sleep at night when he lets things like this happen.... Give the guy a break..I mean he is almost worth less than half a billion..that keeps him awake as it is..not like he could have a conscience and pay St John Ambulance out of his own pocket or anything.. Ted McMinn Football Genius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Yani P said: Give the guy a break..I mean he is almost worth less than half a billion..that keeps him awake as it is..not like he could have a conscience and pay St John Ambulance out of his own pocket or anything.. How do you know he hasn’t? I know nuffin and Wolfie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Ewe Ram, Reggie Greenwood, CROSSWORD and 16 others 6 1 8 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram1988 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 38 minutes ago, angieram said: Fantastic news that St John's Ambulance have been paid for their hard work and hopefully that is one less creditor for the club to pay moving foward. GenBr, Miggins, hydraulic ram and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Ram Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Somebody should retweet that St John Ambulance tweet to the Daily Mail. They’ve had nothing good to report on us for a while, it would be interesting if they took the story up or blanked it for not fitting their agenda. (I don’t do twitter myself otherwise I would send them it myself) SaffyRam, Kathcairns and hydraulic ram 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 15 minutes ago, Ram1988 said: Fantastic news that St John's Ambulance have been paid for their hard work and hopefully that is one less creditor for the club to pay moving foward. It doesn't clear the debt, but it does cover more than they could lose, which is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yani P Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 5 hours ago, PistoldPete said: How do you know he hasn’t? Well he clearly hadn't when he was responsible for paying it as owner of DCFC so why would he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 It would be great if some of the football creditors who'll be paid in full and who could probably afford to swallow the loss agreed to compensate some of the unsecured creditors most at risk, but that won't happen either. It's not hard to see why HMRC oppose the Football Creditors rule. RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 8 hours ago, Yani P said: Well he clearly hadn't when he was responsible for paying it as owner of DCFC so why would he? Because football creditors have to be paid first. That’s the EFL rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreveram Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Just short of £12,000 now. RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, PistoldPete said: Because football creditors have to be paid first. That’s the EFL rules. Football creditors do not have to be paid first when a business is a going concern. That decision is in the gift of the owner. It is only when in insolvency procedures that football creditors have some preferred status. Yani P 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 1 hour ago, i-Ram said: Football creditors do not have to be paid first when a business is a going concern. That decision is in the gift of the owner. It is only when in insolvency procedures that football creditors have some preferred status. That might be to alleviate the possibility of a 'snowball effect' where club 'A' goes into administration, cannot afford to pay club 'B' and club 'C', who likewise then find that they are tipped over the edge and have to take similar action. We'd soon run out of administrators. i-Ram, r_wilcockson and RadioactiveWaste 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Eddie said: That might be to alleviate the possibility of a 'snowball effect' where club 'A' goes into administration, cannot afford to pay club 'B' and club 'C', who likewise then find that they are tipped over the edge and have to take similar action. We'd soon run out of administrators. Whereas the current procedure means that when Derby County goes bust, they quickly get followed by "Derby Fire Safety Ltd", "Chad Floors inc", "Spondon Office Supplies", "Alvaston Bye-Lines and Goal-Post Supplies", and "BeerTent Billy & sons" etc. So that's not so bad! Keep's the football authorities happy, I guess! In all honesty, I cannot believe they can (legally) get away with such a rule (giving preference to football related debts)? But they seem to be able to? ?♂️ Eddie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 3 hours ago, i-Ram said: Football creditors do not have to be paid first when a business is a going concern. That decision is in the gift of the owner. It is only when in insolvency procedures that football creditors have some preferred status. Well even before we went into admin player wages did have to be paid first otherwise you get into bigger poo than if you don’t pay some other bills . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hydraulic ram Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 On 22/11/2021 at 13:07, cool_as_custard said: Rams fan Andy Mitchell is fundraising for St John's Ambulance to see if he/we can raise the £8,000 that Mel left them hanging for. Going well so far but if anyone can help here is the link:- https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/stjohndcfc?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=socpledgemobile&utm_content=stjohndcfc&utm_campaign=post-pledge-mobile&utm_term=K6Yx7jQn6 Thanks for posting the link, I'd heard this but not got around to chipping in - this gave me the nudge I needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnstile Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 12 hours ago, Mucker1884 said: Whereas the current procedure means that when Derby County goes bust, they quickly get followed by "Derby Fire Safety Ltd", "Chad Floors inc", "Spondon Office Supplies", "Alvaston Bye-Lines and Goal-Post Supplies", and "BeerTent Billy & sons" etc. So that's not so bad! Keep's the football authorities happy, I guess! In all honesty, I cannot believe they can (legally) get away with such a rule (giving preference to football related debts)? But they seem to be able to? ?♂️ Surely as we’re a football club there all football related debts.Disgraceful rule. Mucker1884 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 7 hours ago, Turnstile said: Surely as we’re a football club there all football related debts.Disgraceful rule. Yes, sorry. Not the best choice of words on my part. I couldn't remember the "official term", as set out in those disgraceful rules! ?? Turnstile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwood P Dowd Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 On 23/11/2021 at 19:19, Pearl Ram said: Somebody should retweet that St John Ambulance tweet to the Daily Mail. They’ve had nothing good to report on us for a while, it would be interesting if they took the story up or blanked it for not fitting their agenda. (I don’t do twitter myself otherwise I would send them it myself) The Daily Mail doesn’t use good news.?♂️ RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 33 minutes ago, Elwood P Dowd said: The Daily Mail doesn’t use good news.?♂️ How could "good people do a good thing" install the correct amount of seething rage that all daily mail articles are duty bound to create in their readers? Modern times, bad creates clicks and revenue and the daily mail is very successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Just donated. Total is looking good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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