PistoldPete Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 10 minutes ago, Mucker1884 said: I always thought you were some gun-slinging yeehah cowboy called Pistol Pete, and quite frankly, I rather admired you for it... I've only just noticed that you are nothing of the sort, and that you are actually pist and old... but still called Pete. I feel partly embarrassed that I've been reading your username wrong all this time, but if truth be told, I also feel a little cheated! This day just keeps going from bad to worse! ? I am seriously Pist tonight. Mucker1884 and jimtastic56 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 minute ago, PistoldPete said: I am seriously Pist tonight. You and me both, kemosabe! Miggins 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 25 minutes ago, ShoreRam said: Do we think Mr P on OTIB is about to squirt? Why do we continue to discuss a man so inadequate and irrelevant? I appreciate that your post is offered more in humour than meaningfulness, but why give the hateful little rick the attention he so clearly craves? Even his fellow OTIB users more or less ignore him. Perhaps we should do the same... Kathcairns, Reggie Greenwood, angieram and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mihangel Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, 86 Hair Islands said: Why do we continue to discuss a man so inadequate and irrelevant? I appreciate that your post is offered more in humour than meaningfulness, but why give the hateful little rick the attention he so clearly craves? Even his fellow OTIB users more or less ignore him. Perhaps we should do the same... Fair point, I agree. Comrade 86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 With us currently being on a run of seven games without a win and weeks away from probably our toughest run all season, the suggestion that the appeal is a non starter and our points deduction will total -21 seems a fight-ending blow. If what is being reported comes to fruition, we would be 18 points from safety. We play five of the current top 6 and six of the current top 10 in November and December. For Rooney and the players, the timing of this news couldn’t be worse and things could get really ugly if the group become particularly disillusioned. There is still hope when you crunch some numbers. The four teams above us are trending for a finish of 41 points or fewer and one would suspect they are unlikely to improve too dramatically. Other teams could stutter too. We still have 78* points to play for, which always gives us a long shot but evidently it will take something inspired from here on in. But still there is a sense of what could have been. The first 17 games have been a series of missed opportunities and if only moments. We have squandered winning positions in a third of our games. We have drawn a number of games where on the balance of play we could have won. Say we had beaten Peterborough, Preston, Forest and Luton, that alone would negate this incoming points deduction. It does make you wonder. Hope now rests with the administrators and their ability to secure a positive, timely takeover and for the new owners to enact change. January to early March represents our best chance of putting a positive run of results together from here on in. So new owners, maybe 1-2 new players, and dare I say a new manager appointed with a view to hitting the ground running come August could give us a chance of at least going out in a blaze of glory. ariotofmyown, Rammy03, Miggins and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Didn't Wigan manage to win 6 or so on the trot when they royally shafted. They seemed to not concede for about a month and there goalie was brilliant . Whatever happened to him. ariotofmyown, jimtastic56 and GenBr 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: Didn't Wigan manage to win 6 or so on the trot when they royally shafted. They seemed to not concede for about a month and there goalie was brilliant . Whatever happened to him. He’s been Derby’d. Gee SCREAMER !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 39 minutes ago, 86 Hair Islands said: but in terms of these processes, it's pretty clear where he is getting his information Not to me it isn't (I'm always the last to know). Where is it? Mel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Remember it's 45 to survive. Without the 21 point deduction we'd need to have it's 66 points. That's not playoffs but it's a top half finish. It just makes you think how the -12 deduction wasn't even that bad. We've missed the opportunity to pick up more points. There were easily 3 or 4 games we should have won but didn't. That would have wiped out the extra deduction. It would take something monumental from here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hordh Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 hour ago, 86 Hair Islands said: Anyone believing that they can achieve some sort of beast-level catharsis by making others as miserable as they feel is in for a nasty shock. Writing down one's reasons for feeling sad or anxious, or annotating those feelings, is a million miles away from venting one's spleen at a complete stranger via social media. On thread, as regards the additional 9 point deduction, if it's true, there ought to be some form of enquiry into how exactly this is known by a journalist before the EFL have formally laid out the specifics of the charges brought and the penalties attached to them. It stinks to the high heavens and speaks to the incredibly divisive way they have sought to undermine the club at every juncture. After two years of embargos, with all the issues such sanctions bring, we now find ourselves looking at a 21 point sanction on top and for what? For using ERV and not straight line amortisation policies! If these reports are true, then I can imagine precisely the line they have adopted in their 'negotiations; challenge either or both charges and we'll seek to expel you from the league. If this is correct then it's small wonder that the talks were 'adjourned' and even less surprising that Mel felt he had to walk away. So much for the 'integrity of the league'. No question, we've made errors of judgement, but has any club ever been faced with such a heavy price to pay for what was, compared to other clubs' transgressions, a relatively minor offence? 'We want Derby County to be sustainable' - GTFOH Error of judgement?? Minor offence?? Morris attempted to circumvent FFP by numerous means and that is why the club is where it is. He got away with the selling 9f the ground at an inflated figure, but in the end it caught up with him. The EFL under Harvey were useless that no one can deny, but the clubs plight isn't down to them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 21 minutes ago, IslandExile said: Not to me it isn't (I'm always the last to know). Where is it? Mel? Out of respect to David I've chosen my words carefully, but to answer you first question, clearly not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philmycock Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 hour ago, ShoreRam said: Do we think Mr P on OTIB is about to squirt? Mihangel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Hordh said: Error of judgement?? Minor offence?? Morris attempted to circumvent FFP by numerous means and that is why the club is where it is. He got away with the selling 9f the ground at an inflated figure, but in the end it caught up with him. The EFL under Harvey were useless that no one can deny, but the clubs plight isn't down to them! On this occasion, I'll heed the advice of Mark Twain on interactions such as this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 3 hours ago, Orphanram said: You’ve wrought hate on me now people are clapping your tweet ? To be clear I’m a Derby County Supporter and my tongue was firmly in my cheek. Orphanram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Well I think efl had this plan I do blame not to have the spine to say no action against Derby and said to back down or boro be facing points deduction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Mucker1884 said: I always thought you were some gun-slinging yeehah cowboy called Pistol Pete, and quite frankly, I rather admired you for it... I've only just noticed that you are nothing of the sort, and that you are actually pist and old... but still called Pete. I feel partly embarrassed that I've been reading your username wrong all this time, but if truth be told, I also feel a little cheated! This day just keeps going from bad to worse! ? Read the name exactly the same. Imagined that angry little man from the cartoons - was it Yosemite Sam? As you say more disappointment Miggins and Mucker1884 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfs1ram Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 17 minutes ago, Rammy03 said: Remember it's 45 to survive. Without the 21 point deduction we'd need to have it's 66 points. That's not playoffs but it's a top half finish. It just makes you think how the -12 deduction wasn't even that bad. We've missed the opportunity to pick up more points. There were easily 3 or 4 games we should have won but didn't. That would have wiped out the extra deduction. It would take something monumental from here. I think we have thrown away 14 points from winning positions this season already ! Most by any side in the league. Rammy03 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 18 minutes ago, Hordh said: He got away with the selling 9f the ground at an inflated figure Fake news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 It's unexpected as the signs from the administrators seemed positive but this season has just been like that really. One positive note then massive kick to get us back on the floor. Personally, I couldn't see us staying up with the 12 point deficit so if they tag on another 9 it doesn't really bother me too much. It sucks as it's killed off any hope but I couldn't see us doing anything other than falling short anyway. It's time we prepare for life in league 1, get some new owners in and prepare to get out of the third division asap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, Leeds Ram said: It's unexpected as the signs from the administrators seemed positive but this season has just been like that really. One positive note then massive kick to get us back on the floor. Personally, I couldn't see us staying up with the 12 point deficit so if they tag on another 9 it doesn't really bother me too much. It sucks as it's killed off any hope but I couldn't see us doing anything other than falling short anyway. It's time we prepare for life in league 1, get some new owners in and prepare to get out of the third division asap. I saw us over turning it and efl knew it and if they think us Derby fans will ever ever forgive they are dead wrong there worse than snakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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