RadioactiveWaste Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Let's be honest, I can well see an approach from Derby supports groups burning bridges in the current circumstances, accidentally or not. Gibson is convinced of his moral superiority and the justice of his cause so a tone anything other than "forgive us our sins and bless us with understanding of the wisdom of your legal action against a club in insovancy" might have burnt the bridge... Anyone know what boro's wage bill was in 18-19 compared to ours? I'm sure it's come up previously but I can't remember it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: Let's be honest, I can well see an approach from Derby supports groups burning bridges in the current circumstances, accidentally or not. Gibson is convinced of his moral superiority and the justice of his cause so a tone anything other than "forgive us our sins and bless us with understanding of the wisdom of your legal action against a club in insovancy" might have burnt the bridge... Anyone know what boro's wage bill was in 18-19 compared to ours? I'm sure it's come up previously but I can't remember it. It was higher than ours. As was their transfer budget. RadioactiveWaste, r_wilcockson, Crewton and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, PistoldPete said: It was higher than ours. As was their transfer budget. Which will nicely nullify his argument that it was unfair we finished above them because we spent more than we should have. Same as it would have nullified his argument if his wages+transfer spend was less, that they'd have got promoted, having finished below us. Still loving going into a court room basing your damage claims on bookies odds. Crewton, r_wilcockson and Kathcairns 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Why aren’t Middlesbrough taking legal action against Birmingham Reading and Aston Villa who could be said to have had an influence on results and ultimate standings on the league table out of interest could we get a refund of points that season when we lost pitifully at Bolton for an example when we were clearly superior to a very boring un entertaining Middlesbrough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 This is the same poster who posted the original bit. Struggling to work out what Covid has to do with anything seeing as the season in question finished about 8 months before Covid was even a thing. Not to mention Rams TV access was given out for near enough free to ST holders if I remember correctly. There’s then a little confusion around selling players - Derby sold the previous seasons Golden Boot winner, and Andi Weimann, the previous summer, for FFP reasons. It looks a bit like being the club owner’s official mouthpiece doesn’t stop one posting out of ones arse. uttoxram75, Crewton, Kathcairns and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, nottingram said: This is the same poster who posted the original bit. Struggling to work out what Covid has to do with anything seeing as the season in question finished about 8 months before Covid was even a thing. Not to mention Rams TV access was given out for near enough free to ST holders if I remember correctly. There’s then a little confusion around selling players - Derby sold the previous seasons Golden Boot winner, and Andi Weimann, the previous summer, for FFP reasons. It looks a bit like being the club owner’s official mouthpiece doesn’t stop one posting out of ones arse. So, there is in fact, a large element of Steve Gibson doesn't think Derby have been punished enough so he should be able to punish us more. Same as his attempt to have Middlesbrough FC have a go at prosecuting DCFC for the stadium sale, which Derby were vindicated on and was not appealed. Christ the man is a Siberian salt mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Surely £28 million wouldn’t have been enough to completely demolish Middlesbrough town centre ? Jram, GenBr, Comrade 86 and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 12 minutes ago, nottingram said: It looks a bit like being the club owner’s official mouthpiece doesn’t stop one posting out of ones arse. The reason they are talking crap is because they are Boro's officious arsepiece. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 7 minutes ago, hintonsboots said: Surely £28 million wouldn’t have been enough to completely demolish Middlesbrough town centre ? Genuinely one of the places I can say would've been improved by an all out nuclear conflict with the Soviet Union. The appeal of Sunderland combined with the glamour of port Talbot and the friendliness of Motherwell. GenBr, Taribo and TigerTedd 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 That article is clearly wrong we didn’t spend money to get to the premier league we spent it to be entertaining unlike the boring crap served up in the Middlesbrough area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 26 minutes ago, hintonsboots said: Surely £28 million wouldn’t have been enough to completely demolish Middlesbrough town centre ? To be fair, I'd do it for nothing. GenBr, Kathcairns, jimtastic56 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Pretty sure when he started raising these issues at a meeting with with all club board members we offered them to view our accounts which Boro refused. His whole claim is based on ifs & buts, absolute nonsense. How can he prove Boro would have done better if they signed Waghorn? How can he prove we wouldnt have done better without Waghorn? As if we missed out on him, we would have signed someone else instead, who may have done better than Waggy. Is it our fault they lost 6 in a row near the end of the season which saw then drop from 5th to 8th? During the last 9 games they only got in the playoffs once. Kathcairns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 3 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: I think that with the Sheff U case it was somewhat more 'provable'. Tevez kept WHU up in the final match of the season. How are Boro going to convince anyone that us finishing above them and then their potential was any more than what they obtained? That's my point. Even with all those facts, sheff United only got 10 million. With inflation that is probably 15. So Boro are peeing in the wind. The best move from the admins was to say see you in court. Hopefully that was on the say so of whoever the preferred bidder will be. r_wilcockson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramos Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 47 minutes ago, nottingram said: This is the same poster who posted the original bit. Struggling to work out what Covid has to do with anything seeing as the season in question finished about 8 months before Covid was even a thing. Not to mention Rams TV access was given out for near enough free to ST holders if I remember correctly. There’s then a little confusion around selling players - Derby sold the previous seasons Golden Boot winner, and Andi Weimann, the previous summer, for FFP reasons. It looks a bit like being the club owner’s official mouthpiece doesn’t stop one posting out of ones arse. Hasnt another boro fan replied to the original post and basically called out why it’s all a load of rubbish even if it was true? r_wilcockson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Ramos said: Hasnt another boro fan replied to the original post and basically called out why it’s all a load of rubbish even if it was true? Yes. His argument (he's a lawyer, apparently) is that they'd have to prove Causation i.e that Derby's actions had directly led to them being denied a place in the PL or, at the very least, the play-offs (for which the 'loss or damage' caused would be lower, since once they got to the POs it would be impossible to prove that Boro would have got further than the semi-final, particularly against teams that they hadn't beaten that season). He doesn't think they can, and most reasonable people would agree with that, but obviously we're not dealing with a reasonable person. Ramos, Kathcairns and uttoxram75 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramos Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Ramos said: Hasnt another boro fan replied to the original post and basically called out why it’s all a load of rubbish even if it was true? In fact here’s the reply from the fan basically saying why none of it stands up. Edited January 5, 2022 by Ramos Steve How Hard?, angieram, Philmycock and 4 others 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfs1ram Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Counter claim !!! Boro 1 Derby 1 1st Jan 1992. if we had won we would have got promoted and not them !! They finished 2nd 80 points we finished 3rd 78 points. I remember quite clearly that it should not have been a corner from which they scored !! ? TigerTedd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olton Ram Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 13 minutes ago, gfs1ram said: Counter claim !!! Boro 1 Derby 1 1st Jan 1992. if we had won we would have got promoted and not them !! They finished 2nd 80 points we finished 3rd 78 points. I remember quite clearly that it should not have been a corner from which they scored !! ? We don't even have to go back that far. Let's not forget that Middlesbrough sold us Mikkel Beck, which is surely grounds for legal action. Derby paid £500,000 for Beck; I've put this through Gibson's patented 'pull a made up figure out of your a**e' damages calculator, and the amount now due to us is..... leamram, GenBr, Indy and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 1 hour ago, nottingram said: This is the same poster who posted the original bit. Struggling to work out what Covid has to do with anything seeing as the season in question finished about 8 months before Covid was even a thing. Not to mention Rams TV access was given out for near enough free to ST holders if I remember correctly. There’s then a little confusion around selling players - Derby sold the previous seasons Golden Boot winner, and Andi Weimann, the previous summer, for FFP reasons. It looks a bit like being the club owner’s official mouthpiece doesn’t stop one posting out of ones arse. So Gibson doesnt think we have been punished enough? Because he could have spent £28 m on his family and it would have gone a long way? Like paying for his chauffeur maybe. You see I thought it was the EFL and the disciplianry people who decided how much we should be punished, and have done? Not some pubey haired runt from Smoggy land. I know nuffin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Ram Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 He's just upset because we keep taking an inflatable Steve Gibson to away games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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