StapenhillRam Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 A very interesting and worthwhile podcast with Keiran Maguire who I don't believe has any particular axe to grind with Derby County and so perhaps a more balance view than Mel's ramblings. Unfortunately for some reason I can't get a link to the podcast to work so you may have to google it yourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 (edited) I think KM certainly has issues with the way Morris and Pearce have run the club. https://podcasts.google.com/search/price of football Edited September 20, 2021 by RadioactiveWaste alexxxxx, r_wilcockson and RoyMac5 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taribo Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 15 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: I think KM certainly has issues with the way Morris and Pearce have run the club. https://podcasts.google.com/search/price of football Don't we all? RadioactiveWaste, Mucker1884 and Wolfie 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, StapenhillRam said: A very interesting and worthwhile podcast with Keiran Maguire who I don't believe has any particular axe to grind with Derby County and so perhaps a more balance view than Mel's ramblings. Unfortunately for some reason I can't get a link to the podcast to work so you may have to google it yourselves. The main problem with Maguire’s ‘I thought Mel was better than that’ is that he’s not listened to what MM said yesterday. Or understood what’s going on Here it is (not direct quotes) “I can’t sell whilst the EFl is on my back “The EFL aren’t resolving this. They are dragging their feet and it seems they will continue to do that so long as I am owner. “ In other words, the anti MM vote on the EFl board is forcing MM to pour money into the club whilst they reduce the value of the club by delaying resolution. Ok Mel is largely the unlucky author of his own misfortune. But Kieron, you foolish man, it’s not surprising he’s pulled the plug Edited September 20, 2021 by kevinhectoring Mihangel, therealhantsram, Ellafella and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alram Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 3 hours ago, StapenhillRam said: A very interesting and worthwhile podcast with Keiran Maguire who I don't believe has any particular axe to grind with Derby County and so perhaps a more balance view than Mel's ramblings. Unfortunately for some reason I can't get a link to the podcast to work so you may have to google it yourselves. people hate maguire here because he tells us the truth which we don't want to hear GboroRam, Oldben, bimmerman and 6 others 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 "he'd heard there were protests planned for the Saturday" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Also claiming the club's press release stated it was other club's fault and we were being run "fantastically". He must have been reading a different press release to me. RadioactiveWaste and CBRammette 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Perhaps he could donate the money he will earn from talking/writing about our club's misery back to us. Big pay day for him. Sorry to sound bitter but I am! Carl Sagan and MaltRam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Baron Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 11 minutes ago, CBRammette said: Perhaps he could donate the money he will earn from talking/writing about our club's misery back to us. Big pay day for him. Sorry to sound bitter but I am! I've not earned anything. bimmerman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 The lesser impact on parachute clubs and clubs promoted from L1 was also downplayed. Bournemouth were earning just £3.5m from tickets and £1.2m from hospitality. It doesn't take a genius to realise a club like that isn't going to be affectected as much from losing £3.5m income whilst receiving over £40m in parachute payments as we were (£16m match receipts and hospitality). Promoted clubs would have been coming up with a much smaller wage budget and a much more flexible position to scale up their spending to suit what their income was going to be during a Covid season. angieram, Carnero and gfs1ram 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know nuffin Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Ghost of Clough said: The lesser impact on parachute clubs and clubs promoted from L1 was also downplayed. Bournemouth were earning just £3.5m from tickets and £1.2m from hospitality. It doesn't take a genius to realise a club like that isn't going to be affectected as much from losing £3.5m income whilst receiving over £40m in parachute payments as we were (£16m match receipts and hospitality). Promoted clubs would have been coming up with a much smaller wage budget and a much more flexible position to scale up their spending to suit what their income was going to be during a Covid season. Don't forget covid started before the end of the previous season do teams coming up could factor that in their spending Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bimmerman Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 You know what, he's spot on a lot of the time and no surprise he is again with this I listen twice a week to the pod and will continue to do so, thought they were actually quite balanced with their assessment of Mel and convo with ramstrust Not their fault Mel's a wrong un Ramaway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gringo Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 I listen also to their twice weekly podcast as it is good listening on my commute into work, however they are obsessed with the rams and slag them off at every opportunity which is annoying, they also laugh at their own jokes which is doubly annoying. I will listen tonight on my way home but don't expect any great revelations from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramcoteRam84 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 I listened to it for the first time ever today. Kevin Hunter-Day seems a decent bloke. As for KM, he doesn’t have any axe to grind with Derby I don’t think, but he is extremely anti-Mel Morris and with good reason, and uncovered that we were issued with a winding up petition from HMRC pre-COVID. Furthermore he listened to Mel’s interview yesterday and it didn’t change his opinion in the slightest, when Jim Wheeler pressed him on Mel’s defence of the amortisation policy he shot it down quickly, amortisation isn’t meant to be a reflection of value. It isn’t perfect but it’s consistent. Using transfermarkt to value players is as reliable as using Wikipedia as a source!! I think he spoke a lot of sense and is merely exposing Mel for the charlatan he is. DerbySmog, bimmerman, Ramaway and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelBlimp Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Q&A with @The Baron ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTinMan Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 I think part of Kieran's axe against Morris/DCFC is we don't publish our accounts and he loves ripping other teams accounts to shreds when they do release them, usually on his social media. I think he's a very intelligent man who knows his stuff and I do like most of his shows but he comes across sometimes as a bit of a Captain Hindsight who thinks he'd do a better job as an owner/chairman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellafella Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 7 hours ago, kevinhectoring said: The main problem with Maguire’s ‘I thought Mel was better than that’ is that he’s not listened to what MM said yesterday. Or understood what’s going on Here it is (not direct quotes) “I can’t sell whilst the EFl is on my back “The EFL aren’t resolving this. They are dragging their feet and it seems they will continue to do that so long as I am owner. “ In other words, the anti MM vote on the EFl board is forcing MM to pour money into the club whilst they reduce the value of the club by delaying resolution. Ok Mel is largely the unlucky author of his own misfortune. But Kieron, you foolish man, it’s not surprising he’s pulled the plug Absolutely nailed it far better than Professor Maguire @kevinhectoring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Swiss Rambles the top guy when it comes to finance. Seeing as we haven't released anything though, not much for him to do. RoyMac5, Crewton and Gringo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 8 hours ago, Taribo said: Don't we all? Yes but we don't *all* pretend to be experts yet often have glaring holes in our knowledge! ? Carl Sagan and Mihangel 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taribo Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 29 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Yes but we don't *all* pretend to be experts yet often have glaring holes in our knowledge! ? …..speak for yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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