California Ram. Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Lets just wait for the corner flag to message rather than believe the Mail or the Sun. After all this time to just accept the 9 plus 3 suspended seems a bit odd unless potential new owners have asked that it be done. I know nuffin and Carl Sagan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 52 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: I think we need a poll! Is the proposed agreement with the EFL (9 point deduction + 3 suspended) more like: The Molotov-Ribbentrop pact; or, The treaty of Versailles Diet of Worms. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsnip Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 30 minutes ago, Andicis said: If the penalty is -9 we're going down unfortunately. -6 could possibly be doable, but any more than that and I just can't see us having the squad depth to keep out the drop zone. What absolute twaddle. If it's only -6 I'm looking at play offs. r_wilcockson, Andicis and kevinhectoring 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, Eddie said: Diet of Worms. Might want to take some Ivermectin for that Eddie and RadioactiveWaste 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, Tombo said: Might want to take some Ivermectin for that I'll set 'em up... Tombo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKWORTHRAM Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Hopefully the Daily Mail are just regurgitating what John Percy tweeted last week. Can't understand how we've gone from not accepting 9 points and either coming to a compromise or fighting it to just rolling over and accepting it. Surely we haven't? 9 points would make us 7 off relegation. Almost need mid table form to get out of that, which we dont have the squad depth for really. Still, we'd only be 3 points behind them tossers from up the 52. Carl Sagan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, I know nuffin said: Could be they are trying to convince Boro , PNE and the rest of the EFL that they tried as hard as they could and have not wasted their money. Playing to the crowd springs to mind Exactly. The EFL is itself in a difficult position. If it does not drive a hard line, the right wingers in the Championship will be on their backs. If they force us into another legal dispute, the rest of the clubs will be complaining about the costs, whether or not they win. Hopefully that dynamic will lead to a deal before too long - it ought to Edited September 15, 2021 by kevinhectoring Jimbo Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 If (and it's a very big if) the rumours of a 9 points plus 3 more suspended are true, then it makes no sense. "Negotiating" such a high punishment means the EFL know they're on dodgy ground and cannot simply impose it. Why should we ever accept such a thing when we contend we have done nothing wrong? The only reason I can think of, is that the decision is from Mel's potential buyers, who want a line drawn and the thing over and done with. Maybe they think, come January, they can buy their way out of trouble. But if that is the case, Mel needs to be a hell of a lot more confident in his buyers than the recent Sheik or Spanish boxer fiascos. And I'm not currently sufficiently confident in Mel that he's done sufficient (or any) due diligence. LeedsCityRam, California Ram., RoyMac5 and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomBustler1884 Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Personally, i think if it means exiting embargo, delivers a takeover and ends all this, then take the penalty. This ongoing state of nothingness is a disaster for every part of the club and it needs to end. r_wilcockson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gringo Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Carl Sagan said: If (and it's a very big if) the rumours of a 9 points plus 3 more suspended are true, then it makes no sense. "Negotiating" such a high punishment means the EFL know they're on dodgy ground and cannot simply impose it. Why should we ever accept such a thing when we contend we have done nothing wrong? The only reason I can think of, is that the decision is from Mel's potential buyers, who want a line drawn and the thing over and done with. Maybe they think, come January, they can buy their way out of trouble. But if that is the case, Mel needs to be a hell of a lot more confident in his buyers than the recent Sheik or Spanish boxer fiascos. And I'm not currently sufficiently confident in Mel that he's done sufficient (or any) due diligence. Mel won't personally be doing the DD that will be his financial advisors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 What’s Percy just tweeted? He’s banned me ages ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JfR Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, rammieib said: What’s Percy just tweeted? He’s banned me ages ago. Nowt about us, Hughton's gone from Forest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Just now, JfR said: Nowt about us, Hughton's gone from Forest That’s a pity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Beetroot said: Why? Apply it now and we're 2 points behind Forest. Forest definitely going down are they? If we get a 9 point deduction I am willing to put my money where my mouth is ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 (edited) Sky Sports News have just reported that we are close to agreeing a points deduction, but didn’t say exactly how many. I imagine some form of statement will be released by the club and/or the EFL by the end of the week. Edited September 15, 2021 by Heisenberg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucksRam Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 SS News just announced Derby close to agreeing sanctions with EFL "believed to be 9 points" as reported in press, but Derby and EFL not commenting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucksRam Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Just now, Heisenberg said: Sky Sports News have just reported that we are close to agreeing a points deduction, but didn’t say exactly how many. I imagine some form of statement will be released by the club and/or the EFL by the end of the week. Beat me to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 1 minute ago, BucksRam said: SS News just announced Derby close to agreeing sanctions with EFL "believed to be 9 points" as reported in press, but Derby and EFL not commenting Not seen any mention of '9 points' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKWORTHRAM Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Sat watching SS news to watch the goals from tonight. Started off saying breaking news. Derby close to agreeing a points deduction with the EFL. All they said was it's less than what the EFL wanted originally. But have not confirmed what this is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucksRam Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Wolfie20 said: Not seen any mention of '9 points' He verbally referenced paper reports of 9 points plus 3 suspended. Just rewound to check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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